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rudeboy 10-08-2002 01:04 AM

final drive ratios
 
check it. more good questions for the smart guys
the S13 has a LSD gear ratio of 4.1:1 yes or no?

the s14 has the same or 4.083 yes or no?

the Z32tt has 3.9:1 right?
so if i put the TT Z32 i'll be slow
but the non turbo i'll be good

what if i had a final gear ratio of 4.363? i would be a little faster right? as in my tires would spin faster

am i correct on any of this?
if not correct me so i can have the correct info.

higher the number smaller the gear
lower the number bigger the gear

RIGHT?

spitz7985 11-03-2002 05:53 PM

think of it like this- if the final drive gear is 4.1:1, the driveshaft spins 4.1 times, and the axle spins once. so if the stock gear ratio is 4.1:1, and the Ztt ratio is 3.9:1, the Ztt diff will help your acceleration but hurt your topspeed because the gear ratio is easier for the engine to get the car going but your revs dont translate to speed as much as so the top speed will be lower. the 4.363:1 ratio would slow your acceleration, but increase your top speed. i can't help you, though, if you're wondering how much of an affect it will have (i know i am). maybe justin.b can help, he seems to know his ****.

spitz7985 11-03-2002 06:08 PM

btw, i'd like to know where you get the ratios.

rudeboy 11-04-2002 03:19 AM

i was lookin at the ratios for diffrent cars and was doin the math on diffrent diff swaps. i confused myself and just posted to see if anybody could help clear this up

spitz7985 11-04-2002 10:28 PM

do u remember what site?

did i help at all or was i just repeating what you already knew?

rudeboy 11-04-2002 10:50 PM


Originally posted by spitz7985
do u remember what site?

did i help at all or was i just repeating what you already knew?

you helped man- thanks
some specs had ratios others had decin\mal numbers.
i guess i was lookin at it wrong:confused:
it's a good thing i'll have 300-350 hp by snow melt for my 3.363 gear ratio in my skyline LSD.
:laugh:

spitz7985 11-07-2002 08:38 PM

sounds like a good plan to me

rudeboy 11-08-2002 09:27 AM

but even before the swap i'll have longer running legs

jtsarnak 12-17-2002 07:43 AM

Sorry to ressurect this one...
 
...but I think you have it backwards in your logic. Maybe I'm wrong, but this what I've learned after researching this:

In general we deal with x:y, where y=1. So we have x:1.

If x is made closer to 1, we say this is a "taller" gear, leading to more top end speed, but less acceleration performance.

If x is further from 1, we say this is a "shorter" gear, leading to better acceleration performance, but a lower top speed.

So if the stock final drive is 4.1 and you move to a 3.9, you've made the ratio taller and improved your top speed potential. If you move to 4.3, you will increase your acceleration potential.

Think of it like a 10-speed bike. When you are in a shorter gear, you pedal a lot faster and move towards the top end speed OF THAT GEAR pretty quickly. But the top-end is pretty low, so you just pedal like a madman and don't go very fast.

Switch to a taller gear and it takes you forever from a standstill to reach top speed (poor acceleration) but once you do get moving, your top-end speed is much higher.

So your transmission is like a ten-speed bike. The ratios steadily get taller so that you can get moving quickly, switch to a taller gear and keep the momentum going until you've maxed out.

Hope that clarifies things a bit.

rudeboy 12-17-2002 10:19 AM

actually i had came to that conclusion a while ago but havent been back to this thread.. i'm glad you broke it down for the rest of us though:bigok:

Justin.b 01-17-2003 06:53 AM

jtsarnak has it completely right.

The higher the ratio, the quicker your acceleration (with lower top speed)

I think a stock S13 tranny/rearend will hit redline (with limiter removed) at about 165mph. I'd bet that most of us can afford to lose a little off the top. ;)

-Justin

rudeboy 01-17-2003 07:38 AM

good deal Jus
:@-):

Mike 240SX 01-22-2003 12:07 PM

All US 240SX differentials, regardless of LSD or open, are 4.083.

Monkey Force 02-04-2003 12:50 AM

what is the final in a s13 SR?

*nevermind, disregard, my bad;)


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