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s14 Q's nz 08-25-2005 07:59 PM

i have sr20de
 
hello
i know very little about the ka24 engine... i.e. nothing

can any tell me how it compairs to the SR20de?

nsn240 08-25-2005 08:01 PM

i can tell you to SEARCH

and you'll find ever answer you could ever need, it's not a black and white easy answer question.

(this post in dedicated to golam)

s14 Q's nz 08-25-2005 08:47 PM

true ... man im a dumb ass why didnt i think of that

thanks boss

Bryan 08-26-2005 05:11 AM

2.0 liter vs 2.4 liter....search around for more info....wierd seing someone with an actual Silvia looking for info on the KA......

steve 14 08-26-2005 06:31 AM

na ka > na sr
friend has one in his 180 slow as piss
but slap a turbo head on it and
sr20de-t >sr20det

nsn240 08-26-2005 04:01 PM

not to hijack here... but post some pics!!!!

Fast1One 08-26-2005 04:14 PM


Originally posted by nsn240
not to hijack here... but post some pics!!!!
I agree....

O and KA-t > Sr-t :D

tryiian 08-27-2005 12:36 AM

iDunno man, in this country it`s one thing to have all the buildup parts so readily available to us to increase compression, swap cams, and use other things from common junk yard engines like fuel filters to increase our NA performance. Then you`ve got the aftermarket which ain`t bad. I/H/E is covered pretty thoroughly, and plenty of companies make internals and do work like port things and tune ecus and fix injectors and etc.

Anyway, on the other hand, in the land of Oz, where people are blessed with genuine, pure, silvias, and you have companies like Autech that do 200hp na sr20 jobs... I think it`d be pretty easy to change the formula to say "srde > kade" unless you wanna order some sort of complete crate from the states.

You would think the SR has greater potential NA when you consider the stroke = revvability issue. The only way to fully exert the power of an NA engine is to wind it the heck out of it. If you`re talkin road racing especially, being able to utilize a powerband of 5000 rpm all the way to 9 or more. It`ll certainly be an advantage of building the SR vs the KA for NA.

nonetheless, I`ll always prefer the KA for a number of reasons. The stereotypical one, that is, rotational force, or to be more specific, the tendency of the engine to exert large quantities of rotational force. The sound, the sound of an s14 KA purring from 4 to 7 is thrilling to me. More stirring than the sound of my favorite engines, even. (an 8 liter v10, preferably with the ACR exhaust, and the other being an RB26 with the 2.8 stroker and any decent exhaust) Power-per-variable, such as mods, or boost, or money. Availability, I live in Alabama, what can iSay?

and i`ve just realized how long this post is... iShould end it here before iKeep going.

steve 14 08-28-2005 03:34 PM


Originally posted by Fast1One

O and KA-t > Sr-t :D

hahahah ka-t's blow up at around 300

Fast1One 08-28-2005 07:53 PM


Originally posted by steve 14
hahahah ka-t's blow up at around 300
Then you havent done your research buddy...Ever heard of phatka-t? I think they are the ones pushing 500 to the wheels WITHOUT a bottom end rebuild....And FYI sr20de + T will not work very well...too high compression since the NA sr was well...NA. You would need SR-T internals...

steve 14 08-28-2005 08:39 PM

wow thats one thats still runing that prob sit's around all day and does nothing but dyno pulls

sr20det 8 somthing compression
sr20de 9 somthing compression
not that much higher
ps sr-t 380-400 to the wheels untill he crashed it
stock block

Fast1One 08-28-2005 08:43 PM

^^^You can manage that high on a stock block KA too if you tune it right...its all in the fuel management bud...besides the KA will have something that the SR doesnt have...TORQUE

steve 14 08-28-2005 08:47 PM

ahah i love the ka
and if people want to turbo the ka go ahead
you'll spent the same as buying a sr
long run sr>anyting ka

Fast1One 08-28-2005 09:13 PM


Originally posted by steve 14
ahah i love the ka
and if people want to turbo the ka go ahead
you'll spent the same as buying a sr
long run sr>anyting ka

Ummm...no you wont...factor in the money to swap in the SR, and you have enough to build yourself a turbo kit...250-300HP KA>200HP SR

steve 14 08-28-2005 10:33 PM

ok then build me a turbo kit that will out last an sr for $1800 total

Fast1One 08-28-2005 11:26 PM


Originally posted by steve 14
ok then build me a turbo kit that will out last an sr for $1800 total
Not that hard....SEARCH

steve 14 08-28-2005 11:44 PM

no :devil: you do it if you think that ka-t is the **** and is better then buying an sr

back it up

tryiian 08-29-2005 02:44 AM

As much as I hate to admit it, being biased towards the KA myself, you both need to chill out about your opinions and let everything but the facts go.

Steve, check thisy here link out: http://forums.********.com/zerothread?id=129935

now, yes, that`s about 1400 more than 1800, but that`s also using all new parts.

there`s a local guy running mid 13s on an all junkyard setup that he tossed together on his own for under 2. I`ll try and get info later.

Anybody know some cheap but reliable ka-t`s out there or are we gonna hafta go mine the kat forums for testimonies?

and finally, to fastone, the sr20 makes rotational force, too. You just can`t tell until 3-4000 rpm when the car starts whistling.

Fast1One 08-29-2005 08:36 AM

Im not arguing with him, hes arguing... Steve 14 I never said KA was "better" than an SR, I said its just as cost efficiant if not more...And you said the KA cant take 300 HP...umm no. Both can take 300 easy. Both are great engines, its all preference. I rather have the KAs mirrange power and low end torque rather than the SRs revability...

This debate can go on for DAYS, no one will ever win because its mostly based on opinion and preference...so chill out and take that stick out of your ass your making yourself look like an idiot by calling me names.

Yes the SR makes torque too just not as much....its just the nature of the engine...Ive seen those "junkyard kits" Haha! Those kits are too much though...3gs? You can piece it together yourself with fuel management for that price...just a thought :thumb:

steve 14 08-29-2005 03:20 PM

fine i'm done with this
if you ever do build a ka-t don't come back and whine about it because i told you it will blow

Fast1One 08-29-2005 03:47 PM


Originally posted by steve 14
fine i'm done with this
if you ever do build a ka-t don't come back and whine about it because i told you it will blow

Ummm....kay

l3ooherS14 08-30-2005 05:51 PM

lol, this has gone on too far.

Bryan 08-31-2005 05:01 AM

a tad bit

BigVinnie 09-03-2005 11:37 AM

Message to Steve even though the NA sr has a 9.1 compression, it lacks oil squirters that the SR20det comes with. The bottom end of a stock sr not T wont handle high boosting, it will fry your rings like swiss cheese without the oil squirters. KA's come manufactured with oil squirters in the bottom end.
The whole debate thing is stupid you two knock it off. Both engines have different qualities that cannot be compared.


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