1. drifting makes you go faster.
2. does a silvia front fit?
3. s15 conversions.
4. altezzas for 240's?
5. sr vs. rb.
6. friend says his ___ can beat a 240.
7. does ___ lsd fit my 240?
8. random Tein flames.
9. socal local 240 meet #34729374927492
10. Hyjynx is a whore.

That's the first 10 to come off the top of my head in the "most common stuffs" list :D :laugh:

11. Raine stealing the topics from threads

lol. BTW, #10 is so off:rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:

Dude can you make it out to one of the meets we have over here?

#11? #11? I go with the flow of the convo, bro. werd. LOL

I'll try to make it out sometime... my schedule is usually dictated by work and that girly of mine :dunno:

Here's my opinion,

somebody said it already but pretty much everything is a fad, sooner or later it dies out and only the true enthusiasts remain.

I see this happening, first, its gonna get a lot more popular, a lot more people are gonna be out trying to drift, and you're probably gonna start hearing horror stories of people driving off cliffs in the mountain passes or canyon roads, or simply just smacking into walls, or curbs or whatever is in the way on city streets. ( I know the latter is already happening)

Eventually they'll probably make a movie about it, just like Fast & the Furious. I wouldn't be suprised if they made a F&F3 about drifting. I think its only a matter of time before some Hollywood guy exploits it.

Professionally It will take off, and judging from D1GP this year, we'll probably start seeing a lot more sponsors attending these events, as well as some cable or TV time.

After all is said and done though, it will begin to die down, leaving the true enthusiasts. I think in the end it will be a lot more popular than it is now, but not as popular as it will be at its peak.

Personally, I fell in love with my S14 on the street one day. I first got into old muscle cars and I used to have a 1969 Camaro. One day driving it, I saw an S14 and I fell in love just like that. Love at first sight.

I didn't even know my car was good for drifting, and I didn't get it for that reason. I've never been into Honda's or any typical import built for speed. Actually I didn't like new cars until I saw the 240.

When I got it though, my brother who was into street racing told me that it was a good drift car and he showed me some Option videos. I like it even more now. Like I said I really didn't like newer cars, but now that I've been introduced to drifting I'm becoming fond of the FC, S13, S15, and the A86.

I have yet to try drifting, but I think I will. I have to admit that I too am jumping on the bandwagon, but since I have yet to drift, I consider myself an enthusiast of the sport. I think if its fun, wich it sure looks like it is, It'll be a hobby for me that I'll do as often as I can.

I know, I write a lot. Alrato.

-13en

Drifting? Mid 90's? OMG! Alrights kids, I Know I am gonna get flamed for this but here goes? To the one said it used to be called powerslides, right on but damn my dad used to do that in the 60's. My first car was a 73 Dodge Dart I used to slide corners til daybreak. Drifting is a name for it since someone decided to make a sport out of it. Wanna watch the original drifters? Go watch some good ole dirt track outlaws? Except thats still a race, the one over the finish line first is the winner, remember that? Drifting is to motor sports what figure skating is to hockey. Sorry guys. You have ALL jumped on the band wagen, and you will all fall off.

Ah, I may have missed my point. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking you guys into drifting. I know it takes skill and tallent and the ability to set up a car right as any other sport. My point is its always been around in one way or another and with you people knocking the newbs is a surefire way to send it back to the underground where you wont have any place to do it. People will always come and go and only those with thier hearts in it will make it to the top, same as any other sport. Auto racing will inevitably forever be more popular though because the goal is much simpler. Get to the finish line 1st, win!

Holy sht, you hit the nail on the head! Thats exactly what it is.

about that 60's drift stuff.. my dad told me the same thing and i ragged on him .. sayin it wasnt the same.. but check this out ... speedvision special on mustangs (i think it was mustangs) anyways black and white video clip.. mustang cranked out sideways and my dad looks at me and goes told ya.. it was straight drift style.. the flicked it and rode it to the end.. .. but yeah who cares if it's a fad .. or not ... you do it . i do it we all do it .. so lets just be happy and crooked.. you aint drivin right unless your lookin out your passanger window.. or driver window in my case when i smacked thats curb yesterday

True on that mustang stuff, I know generally imports are the main cars of choice but I just read a article on how you can properly set up a mustang to drift. I don't like domestics but I can see how people like Rys Millen are trying to bring domestics into the game. I really don't care what car you use as long as you have the skill to be the best.

I agree... Rhys went against the norm by garaging his Supra for a Pontiac, and the first time he came out with the car, I remember hearing more jeers than cheers - and it kinda made me feel bad because if you think about it Rhys was trying to bring drifting to a broader audience. Even Drift King (I think it was him, or Dai Inada) got a little upset that the US crowd was booing Rhys, and with good reason. I don't think it's about the car either - the fact is, Rhys was still out there drifting. Just like that guy who brought out that 80's Daihatsu. At least they're drifting... which I'd bet 90% of the people booing don't even have a chance at drifting even halfway as good as Rhys and the Daihatsu guy.

Tru Dat, He might not be the best or have a certain car that people like but at least he has the balls to go out and take all the booing in tha ass. Plus, his car has like 500hp, its big, and it's heavier than most cars out there so it takes a lot more skill to drift. If Rys had a 240 or Hachi- Roku he could probably hang with the best of them. He is just choosing to be different so when you see him you know who he is. The supra still isn't out though I do believe he is letting Dai Inada use it. Drifting is Drifting, no matter what car or what person.

wait your saying that a 86 would be better than Millen's super modifed GTO? Have you seen what he has done to it.

I am sorry bandwagonjump d but the 86 isnt all people say it is and is nothing compared to Millens GTO.

also get it out of your head that drifting is an import thing cause a Viper won the last Formula D.

All you ned to drift is a car (rwd is best)
an LSD
and suspention

who cares who makes the car, well exept ignorant ricers.

It's really hard to say if anyone would be better with a ____ car as opposed to a ____ car. In Rhys case, I think he did pretty damn good for having a car that was basically put together overnight. They did so much to that car in such little time, and yet he had the skills to drive it and hang with the other drivers who have been driving 1 car much longer.

And I agree with Cath on his second and third comments. Just because an AE has been glamourized by Initial D and Ueo and Drift King etc. you have to remember that by technology alone, an 86 is already 16+ years behind compared to a monster 500hp GTO. Plus again, Rhys hasn't been with the GTO as long as, say, Ueo and his 86.

And in no way is Drifting an "Import thing". Just because the going belief is that drifting started in Japan, that doesn't mean that some Swedish dude in a wagon wasn't doing it around sheep at 4am on a farm somewhere. :D

i doubt he would have done any better in any other car. i mean have you seen the work he did on that?

I dont know if its just me, but it seems like Ryhs likes heavy cars. First he drove the Supra for a few months, heavy car, now he drives a GTO(Which he kicks ass in!)also a heavy car...evern heavier then the supra. I like Ryhs' style, and he is freaking tall compared to me lol.

Did you say that the Viper won? I thought Yasayuki Kazama won in the green S15 because he beat Taniguchi who drives the HKS S15. Is the viper your talking about the Benihana one? Cuz at the 2004 D1 Grand Prix Kazama won. As for Rhys I'm glad to see him out there representin' us U.S. drifters. In a way I love heavy cars, I love Ueno's Toyota; that car is pimp. I saw the work Rhys did on the gto and its awesome. Now as for the 86 versus his gto thats a battle I would have to see for myself, but it's not just the car it is the drivers experiance level too. That can make all the difference.

....But the one thing that gets me is how these guys with these big ass cars can hang with the more nimble smaller ones. I would never drift a car that big, I guess the skill level matters. I think i'll just stick to my 240 for now.

...and I'm not sayin a 86 is better than his GTO. I'm just saying that the skill level he has to have to drift that GTO, if you put him in 86 or silvia he would woop more ass than he is now. I think he should still stick to the GTO. Don't you think with all these musclcars coming into the game that drifting will get exploited though? Now that people see GTO's and Vipers they can come to believe that anybody can do it in any car as long as it has rear wheel drive. It might turn into another nascar. I just hope it stays at the level it is at now. Like fugitive240 said how drifting is like ice skating to hockey. It should stay that way.

He said "Formula D", not "D1".

an I just noticed I keep confusing Ueo and Ueno although I know which guy I'm talking about LOL

Power to weight ratio has some to do with it

but mostly driver skill.. just like any car you drive it drive it drive it... and you get used to it. I admire anyone willing to drive something new.. thats not been done regularly.


is drifting here to stay??
haha

Im in japan so I get to miss all the frantic furry that goes on. I really could care a less if it stays in the mainstream.. but when the sun goes down and the people go to bed. Im going to be out there driving weither other people are not. I am hooked and I usually drive in the mountains and circuit about 13 times a month. 3 nights a week in the mountains for as long as I want and 1 time a month at the track.

is drifting a passing fad? or is drifting a passing fad for you??

I encourage as many people to try it as possible, responsably. BUT, it takes skill and ALOT of time.. are you willing to put up? I think its awesome that drifting is alive and doing well in the states. Makes me want to return to the states and be apart of it. if it sticks around great!! but realize that there are people all over the world that are practicing.. and if the money is there. .. they WILL come to the US.

its a business and it is a business for D1 in japan as well.. if it did not make money do you really think that they would come to the US!?

This is the best time to improve for YOU and to drive with the best people in the states.. learn as much as you can.. if you goal is to be driving a works car.. DO IT.. if you dont want to compete DONT.. but no need to bash anyone for their decisions. I dont know.. I am sleepy as hell.. its 2am here and my brain is fried.. GOOD LUCK to all the drivers in the states

One thing I like to take from japan is a sence of being humble and a sence of doing things until its perfect.

I am very excited because I am now a kohai / and my sempai is a professional quality driver. I LOVE this sport and its soooo much fun to nail turns. I have imporved alot in 2 years but I still need soooooo much practice. For me.. my goal is to be smooth as ice. to be totally relaxed at 150 km/h at starting speed drifts. GOD I love driving it is so much fun.. how can you not love it!! GET in your car.. reving thru the gears. yanking the side brake and getting your tires up on ice!! thats how it feels when your hauling ass!! heading right toward a wall and just miss it.. locking it right on the apex back to the outside dropping one back wheel off the track.. connecting a series of 8 turns .. then turning around and go again!! this is some awesome fun ****!!! GOD IM SO SIKED .. I got my friends sokkokai in a week and IM SO SIKED!! aaaaaahhhhhhhh I could explode right now if it was not wet outside I wouldb e going ... aaaaaaahhhhhh

...ok.

aight, my bad on the formula d/ d1 mix up. I see your point on the difference between Japan and America drifting culture. As you said, in Japan it's a business so it will never leave, but as for the U.S. It's more of just a pastime. You don't see any big drifting companies over here, once we can establish that type of system drifting will always be here. Even if we don't there will still be the fans. I love to drift, even if some people think I'm a "bandwagonjump" it's not going to stop me. I want to slide around a track effortlessly as if I were on ice. There is no better feeling, and no better rush (until you get caught).

....and to poweredby007; that's tight that your in Japan. I wish I had the moolah to travel over there and get on the tracks and mountainsides. Hopefully I can go next year, it's in the works.

...oh, and Raine, your not confusing them, I'm talking about Ueno and the SC300 not Ueo and the 86. You know Ueno and the big ass SC300? Thats the car I like.

Technically it's a Toyota Soarer over in the homeland... and now you really got me confused. LOL j/k

Ueno's c/f doors are sexay.

rhys is freakin badd.. all those ppl driftin deserve to be where they are.. ppl booing him hurt my feelings.. no respect... but they did some amazing things at formula d.. rhys stopped his car mid drift ..with out stopping the tires.. haha dude is baddddddd.... i could watch the vid over and over and over.. junk is dope...

but about those booers.. thats just a lack of respect... and if mr. rhys millen ever sees this .. props to him for the steps he has taken to make drifting a everlasting sport in the us.. domestic cars will always be here.. and now . SO WILL DRIFTING!!!

I think that the most important thing for us weather we are doing it for show or the love of it. Getting the exposure is important for the survival of Drifting. It won't matter what car you're in, if you can't do it then everyone would be hurting.

Having this exposure brings in alot of US aftermarket parts and new sponsors/events. This too me from a consumer and avocate would be the ideal senario for Drifting today.

Be it a fad or not we know who's in it for the long haul and who isn't. Besides, drag and drift has been around before us and will hopefully continue. I say bring on the wanna bee's and the wagon jumpers. To me it's money that will flow towards our passion.

no offense but he's not even on the first page of people responsible for getting drifting big in the U.S.... I'd say more but I'm not in the mood. LOL

sup guys sorry if im digging up a old tread.

drifting to me is nothing more then another expression of ones inner self. when u first went out and got ur car sideways u maybe felt a few things.

calm
scared
paniced
amazzzzed
or nothing

i personaly felt like i have been doing it for a while i was very calm. after about 2 years of watching the drift bible and other good jap vids it felt good to apply some of the begginer steps that i watched. Im from baltimore city so thats another thing i have against me. People when they see me would never think i could drift because im black.

like countless guys said befor me, some of us have seen drift vids befor drifting was plastered on every super street mag and on discovery channel. We will see for our selves the people who are serious and the people who just do it for giggles.