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V8-240sx 03-02-2003 08:05 PM

V8 Chevy powered 240sx
 
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Have you ever wanted a V8 Nissan 240sx??? Well now you can.
I now have Chevy V8 engine swap kits for the 240sx.
You don't have to tell that you have an old school Chevy 350,
LT-1 or LS-1, under your hood.:sneaky:You can have a fast and furious sleeper for real.
Chevy motors are everyware, with a little $$$ you can have a 10sec or 11sec 240sx daily driver for for a lot less $$$ than anything else.

Contact info: v8-240sx@comcast.net :

Justin.b 03-02-2003 10:45 PM

Appropriately, you're from Detroit. :)

Are you selling a kit? What does the kit include? Do I use the Nissan tranny or a Borg Warner unit from a GM?

What is the weight of an LT1 with all accessories? have you corner weighed a car after this swap?

Sorry if it's a lot of questions, but you sent me a batch of pictures a while ago and I've been very curious about this swap since then.

Thanks,

-Justin

DETurbine 03-03-2003 01:17 PM

I'm sorry but it's different and all, but keep it real....It's nissan, keep the power nissan.....Nissan makes enough good engines to choose from ( CA18DET, SR20DET, RB20DET,RB25DET, RB26DETT, ect.......) It's allot cheaper and funner to fix up a Import 4cyl. or V6 then a V8.:dunno:

kaos 03-03-2003 03:36 PM


Originally posted by DETurbine
I'm sorry but it's different and all, but keep it real....It's nissan, keep the power nissan.....Nissan makes enough good engines to choose from ( CA18DET, SR20DET, RB20DET,RB25DET, RB26DETT, ect.......) It's allot cheaper and funner to fix up a Import 4cyl. or V6 then a V8.:dunno:
Personal Prefrence I say keep it Nissan also. However a V-8 under the hood would be a total sleeper. Just because I wouldnt do it though doesn't mean it isn't sweet because it would be. I got one buddy who is putting a LT-1 in a 280Z. If he ever finishes that thing it will be nuts. Oh and I agree with the more fun part, but just so you know it is a lot cheaper to build a American V-8 than any import. Where can you get an RB or even a CA for a $1000?

Chad

Justin.b 03-03-2003 06:36 PM


Originally posted by DETurbine
I'm sorry but it's different and all, but keep it real....It's nissan, keep the power nissan.....Nissan makes enough good engines to choose from ( CA18DET, SR20DET, RB20DET,RB25DET, RB26DETT, ect.......) It's allot cheaper and funner to fix up a Import 4cyl. or V6 then a V8.:dunno:
Guys, if you're so gung ho on keeping the car stock Nissan, then why would you upgrade brakes, suspension, stereo or anything else to another brand than OEM? Why would you switch the motor to anything other than what Nissan gave us in the 240?

Brakes are meant to stop the car - if I can find a good deal on brakes that stop better, I'll use them.

If you can find me suspension components that make the car handle better, I'll use them.

If you can put 300hp under my hood for under $2000 with minimal aggravation, I'm going to consider using it - regardless of the manufacturer.

-Justin

CRooKeDCoP 03-03-2003 07:00 PM

It is not cheaper and more fun to do an Import. It is just as fun to do both. Personnally if I want a V8 , I would get an F-Bod or a Fox body fer sure. Then tune the **** outta it , all NA. Cuz there ain't nothing in this world that growls better then a Carbed NA V8. Cept Tuned V12 and such , but then those are supercars and not tuners.

I chose Nissan for looks and great RWD power in a V8. Domestic has been done to death , beleive it or not there are still many things to be explored in the Import world. This to me makes it much more fun to tune a Nissan.

I tuned an Acura Integra b4 this , and a 82 Ford F150 b4 that. I have driven many RWD high power cars. After tuning the Teg , it made me miss RWD power waaaay too much. So now I am in the 240 Market and looking to build big.

But if you want a domestic engine in your import car go for it , if you want an import engine in your domestic car go for it.


IT"S YOUR CHOICE. Your car have fun.

Mah 2 Cents

NightXCZ77 03-03-2003 11:23 PM

A major advantage of keeping it Nissan is that with a 300 hp Inline 6, you can still get 25-30 mpg freeway....doubt if you'll ever see those numbers from a modded V8.

Night

V8-240sx 03-04-2003 04:17 AM

V8 240sx Gas Mileage???
 
It is actually pretty good, because the V8 small block is has so little weight to carry. you can easily get 25~27mpg....with 300 horse power, without spending a lot of money.
Chevy power is very cost efficient, the best dollar pre hp out there in the go fast world!!!
You can't beat a chevy with the same budget, with any other motor period.
I dare Ya..... take the challenge!!!!
:D

2-FORTY_TERROR 03-04-2003 08:46 AM

HMMMMM........
 
What the f*ck.....a v8 in a 240...no no no.....if i wanted a v8 i would buy me a an old fox body...or a camaro.....but then again i run the hell outta my friends fox body all the time.....so i guess you can say i took the challenge and ramed it up its @ss.....i meen seriously,...thats just stupid....domestic + import = no good
......yeah you can drop in a 350....put a new cam in it...through on new fuel injectors...a giant intake and then when the time comes give vortech a phone call....but why thats just to easy...its not even a challenge.....but thats my opinion....ohh yeah...if i were to go from a 4 to an 8 i would do it to a new 2003 s10 Extreme....then it would be bad @ss......maybe i just feel this way because one town over is the **** of the world and everybody and their brother have a truck or a POS old camaro or some sort of vehicle.....!!!!....with "v8's".....

domestic + import = :barf:


:angry: TERROR :angry:

Justin.b 03-04-2003 12:10 PM

Are todays young import drivers the Camaro boys of my high school years?

Really, guys, you all need to be a little more open - minded about this stuff. There's no need for such ridiculous blind loyalty.

Did any of you know that you can buy a turbo RB equipped GM FROM THE FACTORY in Australia? The Holden (GM) Commodore can be ordered with a Nissan RB25ET, and the same car is also offered with the Chevy V8.

Now if GM and Nissan themselves aren't loyal enough to their own products to keep this machine from happening, then what is your justification?

-Justin

I'm with Stupid 03-04-2003 02:34 PM


Originally posted by Justin.b
Did any of you know that you can buy a turbo RB equipped GM FROM THE FACTORY in Australia? The Holden (GM) Commodore can be ordered with a Nissan RB25ET, and the same car is also offered with the Chevy V8.
Wow I didn't know that. That's awsome though. Does this mean that you could drop a RB25 or RB26 into the new Pontiac GTO? From what I read the Monaro is really just a 2 door Commodore, so....

DETurbine 03-05-2003 08:23 AM

You acually have to be an Nissan enthusiast to respect one. All the true enthusiasts keep it all Nissan, if it is a motor swap it is always going to be Nissan ( RB20, RB25, RB26, 30, SR, KA, CA, ect.......):thumb:

Justin.b 03-05-2003 08:46 AM

That makes about as much sense as my friend's dad who makes me park my car on the street because it's not American.

Trust me, I am a Nissan enthusiast whether or not I receive your official seal of approval. But if a small block chevy is the best option for what I plan to do - then a small block Chevy is what I will use.

If they had easy access to LT1's in Japan then the Options mags would be jammed full of these swaps.

-Justin

Justin.b 03-05-2003 08:50 AM


Originally posted by I'm with Stupid
Wow I didn't know that. That's awsome though. Does this mean that you could drop a RB25 or RB26 into the new Pontiac GTO? From what I read the Monaro is really just a 2 door Commodore, so....
I don't know. I haven't been keeping up with the GTO. If you have the desire, you can swap any motor into any car.

For more on the Commodore and Ford Falcon, check out www.autospeed.com . I don't know how many of the articles are available to non-members though.

-Justin

180SXcoolguy 03-05-2003 10:31 AM

Not to be disrespectful to any of these guys but whats the point? So you can say "yea my car is sleeper like ****"?? then i guess you're gonna have to not run the car at all because the sound of a modded V8 compared to a I-4 or I-6 is VERY different.

2) Some of us got imported cars because they are more or less technically advanced than the pushrod chevy V8 and pretty much better than the domestic ones. That and the whole rivalry between domestics and imports is there.... why cross breed if you've got a imported car?? if you wanted a V8 why not get a car with a V8 instead??

3) TRACTION.... between spending all this money fitting a V8 into your engine bay and doing all the conversions and what not you're going to spin your tires till they burst. Night posted about when he just swapped his RB25 in before he had the LSD and spun tires all the way down the track to run a 15.2 or something thats with the 250hp im assuming....You're talking about 320 or whatever the LS-1 is so pretty much the only way to get traction with this swap is to spend alot more money grafting somekind of LSD that works with whatever drivetrain you're working withand by getting some really expensive tires if not slicks. I have a friend that used to own a 89 Mustang with fully built motor, GT-40 heads and he couldn't get **** for traction unless he had his mickey tompsons on. In the end you've spend all this money to run 11s or whatever when you could've gotten a RB, bolted it up, few mods and run the same with less custom work and less hassle.. This just seems stupid to me but if thats your thing and you're willing to spend all the time and money on it then go for it... in fact props to you.... it just doesn't seem reasonable to me. You're all entitled to your own opinion and this is just mine... Didn't mean any disrespect

clikzip 03-05-2003 10:47 AM

who cares anyway? You guys that wanna keep it ALL nissan, go ahead. But you have to be open minded to other peoples decisions. If he wants a small block v8 in a i-4 car then go right ahead and do it. What you think about YOUR car is all that matters

Justin.b 03-05-2003 11:47 AM

Reasons I would go with a V8 240:

1 - Price and availability of parts. This motor and parts for it are everywhere.

2 - Power. Do we even need to discuss specifics? You can build one of these not only to have a mice power peak of 300hp, but also a very wide torque curve.

3 - Weight. I would bet that the sbc is lighter than the RB, and will be shorter as well - putting less weight in front of the centerline of the front wheels.

4 - Suspension. American pony cars are great in the 1/4 mile, but often come with suspension designs dating back decades. The 240's suspension, especially the rear, is light years ahead of most domestics. Where the US 240 lacks is where the domestic excels - under the hood. It seems like a great way to combine what I consider one of the best handling cars around with one of the most powerful machines available here.


Reasons I would avoid going with a V8 in a 240:

1 - Complexity. This is my daily driver. And while I know the sbc is a stout and proven motor, many of the problems in keeping a car running are in the little details like wiring, sensors, etc. With this swap there is no FSM.

2 - I like the I4. I just do. There may be no good reason for it, just a preference. It's not even a loyalty to Nissan thing or an import v. domestic thing. If I had 4 S13's and a big budget, I would first want a KA24DET, then an SR20DET, then the V8 and then an RB. If I could have a fifth, I'd also want one with a Buick Grand National motor (3.8 v6 turbo) or GMC Cyclone / Typhoon motor (4.3 v6 turbo).


I'm not saying all these reasons have equal weight. I'm just trying to inset a little logic into the turf war.

-Justin

DETurbine 03-05-2003 01:20 PM

If it's a price thing then why are you even fixing up a Import. You can go cheap and go domestic if you want. I'm not just talking about the engine but the same with the LSD and suspension products they to are going to be allot more expensive as the Domestic products. I'm not talking s**t towards domestic, I have friends that have them and they have knowledge about imports and totally understand them, but they too wanted to go cheap or they are just more into the domestics then imports which is cool.

Justin.b 03-05-2003 01:38 PM

I did start with domestics. I had 3 f-bodies, I spent a good deal of money upgrading the suspension on one of them. 16" wheels with 245/50/16 tires all around. Koni adjustable shocks/struts, all polyurethane bushings and upgraded sway bars. I thought the thing handled great!

Then I crashed it and bought an S12 as a temporary car. The stock S12 with crappy little tires handled better than the upgraded Firebird had. Although it only had about 90hp stock, it only weighed 2520 pounds after I installed the system in it. That is when I became an import fan - I scrapped my plans to find another f-body and never looked back.

Graham Chapman (Lotus designer) said "It's easier to add power than to add lightness." He is completely right. You can scoot a tiny lightweight FWD car through a lot of tight courses faster than you can get a RWD car that is 50% heavier with 100% more power.

That is why I chose my 240. I'm very familiar with the cars, have been playing with Nissans for years now (three S12's and this S13). There are things that the 240 chassis is capable of that an American pony car will probably not be able to do. As for acceleration, the 240 can be made to do that too.

I'm not saying that the pony cars are all crap. They have come along... but it is cheaper to meet my overall handling / acceleration needs with the 240. It's cheaper and easier to make the 240 fast than to make a Camaro handle like it's 800 pounds lighter.

-Justin

Psylent 6 LS 03-06-2003 07:37 AM

V8-240sx, where you at in detroit? I live in Grosse Pointe which is like 5min from detroit, i would love to check out your ride with that v8....

leiferik1 03-06-2003 08:36 AM

i know fully well that as soon as i get the money, i'm dropping an american engine in my car.....a nice big v8

supercharged

FireStone 03-06-2003 09:49 PM

I come form quebec in canada so my english is not perfect...
In october past, I've put a 350GM in a 240 89 without motor. The 350 was already to me before. I swap the motor and the tranny. It fits very well. But the shaft to the wheel(dont know in eng) dont support the power(about 440hp at crank). So I was obligated to put stronger shafts. For the moment, the car is stored and the swap is finished for the moment. I hurry to see the time on the ¼. I hope 13sec...
I will put good tires slick for the summer...maybe 205/55/15.
The motor cost over 8000$can in 93 for the upgrade. it was for a camaro but the car was sell for a good price.
It's a stupid project but the feeling of a 350 in a 240 is:devil:

FireStone 03-06-2003 10:06 PM

and I forgot....I've a small problem of front suspension....the engine is a bit heavier than stock engine:confused: But it's not a big problem for now

trminate 07-06-2003 08:20 AM

i know this has been dead for awhile... but how much is the kit??

jkfreshdaddy 07-07-2003 03:04 AM

You can put any engine in any car?

Nah dude i dont think so... in fact its pretty much a ***** to swap any foriegn engine in.


also i just realized domestics are so tight i mean the engines they had in the 60s are comparable to everything now days lol in fact they probably beat alot of stuff comming out now days. There primative but genius none the less

its freaking 30-40 years ago

ya ill alwayz be a domestic fan, especially cause i lived in japan for 6 months and they luv domestic way more than any of their cars... guess i cant say all of japan the places that i stayed lol

except for supras the japanese luv their supras

but mostly the talk is around American and Euro cars

-HyJynX- 07-07-2003 10:03 AM

Yea I only like the old school domestic cars, and euros <3. If they didnt cost so much id probably own one haha.

Catharsis 07-07-2003 01:54 PM

a SBC is a wonderful thing with more parts for it than any import car out there and they are dirt cheap. I love it.

A LS1 LT1 and LS6 have so much toruqe that you can also skip gears ang get 21mpg city driving.

If you us ean LS block that all aluminum the wieght wont be that much more...

as for the kit will it work for the ls1 or ls6?

good job!

MJ201 07-08-2003 09:05 PM

where can i find the differences between all of the chevy motors (LS-1 and ****) I dunno much about it but i think american engines r some of the best in the world and Japanese Cars are the best handeling in the world. Put the 2 together and u get one killer street machine. One guy by my house has a 72 vette with some chevy Big block with twin superchargers and he is puttiong out 850 horse and still gots good MPG That is what i want in my 240. :D :werd:

adavib 07-10-2003 06:26 PM

I like the idea, rather I love the idea. Look up and see what was written about imports and american cars. It is true. I want that combined! Plus think about this SR20 and KA-T guys, sorry leaving the RB guys out of this one :), would you race a 240 that idled like an American muscle car?

krazy240sx 07-15-2003 11:12 AM

how did u do it?
 
Hi my name is James and I have a 1992 Nissan 240sx se fastback and was thinking about supercharging it and having a lot of other modifications done to it. The problem is that paxton makes a 4 cylider supercharger but not the whole kit. When I saw your post I was very interested about having a V-8 240sx. If u could please send me information about your kit it would be much appreciated.
My e-mail adress mongosejet@aol.com

Reno 07-16-2003 01:32 AM

I guess no one noticed, but this guy hasn't replied back in months..

I don't see there being any responses to this thread from anyone with any real info.

trminate 07-16-2003 04:56 PM

he's still around...

he sent me an email after my last post

nurspec180sxr 07-19-2003 02:30 PM

justin b i currently own a sr powered 240sx and I am a Nissan enthusiast. and i think it is a wonderful idea to do the V8 swap u can make it way meaner with way less money perfect for drag

sm7400 07-23-2003 12:41 PM

This reminds me of the popular swap for Miata's. (Well, maybe not popular, let's just just say around...) You can put a 302 (5.0L Mustang engnie) into a Miata. The car is fast, but it doesn't handle well... how is this car going to handle with a big v8?

DroptopDrifter 07-24-2003 12:04 AM


This reminds me of the popular swap for Miata's. (Well, maybe not popular, let's just just say around...) You can put a 302 (5.0L Mustang engnie) into a Miata.
Yeah those are sweet, they're called Monster Miatas, and from what i heard the conversion is done with a automagic transmission. :bigok:

sm7400 07-24-2003 01:50 PM


Originally posted by DroptopDrifter
Yeah those are sweet, they're called Monster Miatas, and from what i heard the conversion is done with a automagic transmission. :bigok:
Auto tranny? BOOOO!!!!!!

trminate 07-24-2003 09:03 PM

Auto tranny? BOOOO!!!!!!



yea that's what i'm sayin... if i did any kind of v8 swap it'd have to be manual

DroptopDrifter 07-24-2003 10:51 PM

Yeah it does suck, but having a Miata that sounds like a stang is still way cool.

sm7400 07-24-2003 11:50 PM

it would be cool, but more of a novelty .. for everyday driving and raceing id rather have a turbo 4..

but a 5.0 would definitly surprise a few faces at a show lol...

BDawg 07-29-2003 09:28 PM

Yeah i was reading this and i wondered if any others nissan forums were discussing this. And on NICO forums, there is another guy that did this swap a ways back ( http://www.nissaninfiniticlub.net/fo...=v8+conversion ). The main question ther was the frame. Can the frame of a 240 handle all the torqur and hp of an lt-1 or even an ls-1??? Won't that twist and tear your frame to scrap? Also they said the whole conversion cost them about 12 grand. I thoguht this was best bang for the buck.... Please correct if i am wrong.


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