Sr Psi
10-08-2004, 03:59 AM
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Sr Psi
hey all im a new guy but i've been checking out this place for a wile and i will soon be geting a 240 in about 3-6 months but i wana do my home work i plan on doing the SR swap but i have a few Q's i have tryed to find them he but cant and was hoping some one here can tell me
SR20DET
how many PSI can i rais the stock turbo to with out cuting the engins life span. this Q is for the s14 and 15 enging if they are diffrent numbers.
SR20VET
is the VET the same or more difficult to swap into a 240 (yes i know 4X4 i would use a s14 or 15 tranny) also can any one tell me how any PSI can i rais the stock turbo on the VET with out cuting the life span of the motor
also can any one direct me to a good place to find the VET engin and all other parts needed for the swap i cant seem top find any. and even though i have a few sites for the DET swap can any one give me a few reputable placec so i can compare thanx ahead of time
also i wana know whats a fair price for the swap labor. i have run around the net and specialist shops will do it for about 1,500 but my friend has a michanic who told him he would do the DET swap on his old sentra for 500-600 and im hoping he would do the swap into a 240 for the same he has done a few so i know i can trust him and its a hell of a lot better then 1,500
SR20DET
how many PSI can i rais the stock turbo to with out cuting the engins life span. this Q is for the s14 and 15 enging if they are diffrent numbers.
SR20VET
is the VET the same or more difficult to swap into a 240 (yes i know 4X4 i would use a s14 or 15 tranny) also can any one tell me how any PSI can i rais the stock turbo on the VET with out cuting the life span of the motor
also can any one direct me to a good place to find the VET engin and all other parts needed for the swap i cant seem top find any. and even though i have a few sites for the DET swap can any one give me a few reputable placec so i can compare thanx ahead of time
also i wana know whats a fair price for the swap labor. i have run around the net and specialist shops will do it for about 1,500 but my friend has a michanic who told him he would do the DET swap on his old sentra for 500-600 and im hoping he would do the swap into a 240 for the same he has done a few so i know i can trust him and its a hell of a lot better then 1,500
10-08-2004, 06:16 AM
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You can push safely 13-14 pounds of boost on the T-25, If I'm wrong it won't take long for someone to correct me. T-28 I'm not sure of that one. I think 1500 is a fair price on labor. Thats if it is done very cleanly and the work is good.
10-08-2004, 01:49 PM
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S14 engine- 13PSI-14PSI max, any more and you are really risking it. BTW, SR you were right
S15 SR- I would say...18PSI max, but I could be wrong.
SR20VET-Have no idea!
BTW, I would just rather do the S14 or S15 SR swap...haven't heard of someone doing a VET.
S15 SR- I would say...18PSI max, but I could be wrong.
SR20VET-Have no idea!
BTW, I would just rather do the S14 or S15 SR swap...haven't heard of someone doing a VET.
10-08-2004, 05:18 PM
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i know the turbo can take 13-15 but i mean the engin if the engin stoke could take 13-14 or even 18 why would the company only set it to 8. so incase you guy are talking about the turbo how many PSI can the engin take?
by the way thanx for responding
p.s hyjynx i know it would be easyer to do the 13-14-15 swap but i think i would be sick to be one of the first few with a VET in a 240 and i think i would get more out of the VET with the same addons as i was planing to put on the 14 or 15
basicly i plan on doing engin swap with 50 state legal headers , down pipe, high flow cat, 2.5 or 3 inch cat back to a nise maybe borla muffler so lot less back presure. along with a nismo intake oh forgot most likly i will be using all nismo for the exhaust from head to tip i have a friend that works at a nissan dealer ship and gets big discounts he just got his CAI for his spec-v for $100 less then normal prive
P.S for all who are like me and wana do the swap but wana be able to register it and feel safe from cops i have been talking to a guy at my school who works on hot rods and such and basicly all that needs to be done it all smog stuff must be their cats and muffler must be on 50 statle legal: headers, downpipe, cat, muffler. the engin must be of the same or newer year then the chase and you will be able to reregister as a 240sx with a sr20
by the way thanx for responding
p.s hyjynx i know it would be easyer to do the 13-14-15 swap but i think i would be sick to be one of the first few with a VET in a 240 and i think i would get more out of the VET with the same addons as i was planing to put on the 14 or 15
basicly i plan on doing engin swap with 50 state legal headers , down pipe, high flow cat, 2.5 or 3 inch cat back to a nise maybe borla muffler so lot less back presure. along with a nismo intake oh forgot most likly i will be using all nismo for the exhaust from head to tip i have a friend that works at a nissan dealer ship and gets big discounts he just got his CAI for his spec-v for $100 less then normal prive
P.S for all who are like me and wana do the swap but wana be able to register it and feel safe from cops i have been talking to a guy at my school who works on hot rods and such and basicly all that needs to be done it all smog stuff must be their cats and muffler must be on 50 statle legal: headers, downpipe, cat, muffler. the engin must be of the same or newer year then the chase and you will be able to reregister as a 240sx with a sr20
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10-08-2004, 05:33 PM
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1) We we're only talking about the stock turbos. The stock internals can take a good beating...I would say around 20 PSI, maybe a little more with some tuning. But remember that the more boost you run, the more "harm" you are doing to your engine.
2) What ever floats your boat. The S15 engine makes more then the VET stock, and is quite a good starting ground if you have the money to spend on it. But RB's will always have a place in my heart.
3)The engine had to be sold in the same chassis or newer in the US. So SR's are illegal, no matter what.
2) What ever floats your boat. The S15 engine makes more then the VET stock, and is quite a good starting ground if you have the money to spend on it. But RB's will always have a place in my heart.
3)The engine had to be sold in the same chassis or newer in the US. So SR's are illegal, no matter what.
10-08-2004, 06:21 PM
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nope i talked to him as long as the car can pass smog has all the smog gear on it all 50 state legal exhaust system and the engin cant be older then the chasy even from another car . thats how they get away with puting chevy engins in fords
10-08-2004, 07:23 PM
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FYI: The SR20DET was never sold in the U.S., so it will never be legal. There are several guys on other forums I belong to that found out the hard way when CHP had them pop the hood and their car was impounded.
I have been running 14 pounds of boost (SR Redtop) for a couple of years with no issues. Dailey Driver 50-miles a day.
$1000-1500 for labor is about right and should include working A/C
I have been running 14 pounds of boost (SR Redtop) for a couple of years with no issues. Dailey Driver 50-miles a day.
$1000-1500 for labor is about right and should include working A/C
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10-09-2004, 04:29 AM
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LOL well ya if you dont register it i mean from what he tolled me i would need to have it go through smog and all the other anoying crap then get it registered as a 240 with a sr20 but if you swap and just drive with out registering ya you'll get inpounded.
Lincoln:
you have a red top with the stock turbo and you have done absolutly nothing to it like replace cams and internals ? like replaces stock internals for stronger parts?
Lincoln:
you have a red top with the stock turbo and you have done absolutly nothing to it like replace cams and internals ? like replaces stock internals for stronger parts?
10-09-2004, 04:19 PM
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they're right, the sr20 isnt even recognized here. he does domestics, he's probably used to swapping in old 350s into newer cars. in which case you CAN tell the state and they will register it, after a ton of work on your part i might add. they really dont like you putting older engines in newer cars, so you go through a lot of work to get it done. however the engines he is most likely thinking of are engines that came in US cars. the sr20's never came in a US car therefore they are illegal
10-09-2004, 05:16 PM
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SR20DET (Redtop), HKS Type-S FMIC, Blitz Nur-Spec Racing exhaust system, Blitz SDC-id boost controller, Cusco RS LSD, and on and on. I am running the stock turbo and cams, and I drive my card hard. I am getting ready to do the next step (Full Race exhaust manifold, new head gasket, HKS cams, cam gears, GReady intake manifold, and SC61 turbo). The SR has forged internals and is build with high tolerances. There are several cars running SR stock internals making 500 and 600whp in my area. The engines I have seen blown up were do to either improper maintenance or bad tuning (the big one).
10-09-2004, 08:50 PM
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Cali sucks. The SR's aren't illegal, unfortunately it's part of my business working with the regulations and I'm not about to disclose them, but it's all about how people interpret them, and how the police mis-interpret them to get YOUR $$$$. The swaps probably pass the sniffer test better than the KA's which only get 20-24mpg.
Except for the nice mountain roads