VQ35DE Into a 98 240
08-22-2003, 11:42 PM
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VQ35DE Into a 98 240
Has anybody here ever done the swap ( VQ35DE, which is the 350Z engine) or know if it is even possible? It seems to me that the VQ is a better engine than the RB and SR. The VQ starts at 289HP while the RB's best engine is rated at 280HP and SR is like 260HP? So wouldn't the VQ be a better engine to start off with than the RB's and SR's?
08-25-2003, 01:43 PM
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DOUBTFUL. The RB20 barely fit in my S13. I dont know the difference in engine bays in the S14, but I am sure it isnt much. Besides you are talking N/A vs FI. Sure the the RB20 is rated at only 214 and the RB25 is rated at what 250 and teh RB26 is rated at 276 (only because of the gentelmans agreement. I hear godzilla puts out WAAY more than that). The difference is all of these engine have been built for turbo. You can just crank up the boost. Besides....the motor is brand new in RWD form. So it would cost a BUNCH. Plus all the custom **** that would have to be done. Why bother.....?
08-25-2003, 02:35 PM
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For the HP plus the sound. The Z sounds so awesome with its dual exhaust system, plus i like the dual exhaust better than just the single big @$$ pipe that sounds like a bumble bee
08-25-2003, 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by flstseminolejd
well i have heard plenty enough to believe it
well i have heard plenty enough to believe it
here's a link from HKS's site. it's an S15. in other words an SR20DET with one of HKS's exhaust systems.
http://www.hksusa.com/info/media.asp?id=1766
here's an MR2. no turbo but def doesn't sound as small as it is.
http://www.hksusa.com/info/media.asp?id=1762
this is about as bumble bee as i can find without going honda but those aren't sports cars anyway.
http://www.hksusa.com/info/media.asp?id=1761
that's the last generation RX7. for some reason i wouldn't mind it sounding like a bumble bee
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08-26-2003, 05:41 AM
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Originally posted by flstseminolejd
For the HP plus the sound. The Z sounds so awesome with its dual exhaust system, plus i like the dual exhaust better than just the single big @$$ pipe that sounds like a bumble bee
For the HP plus the sound. The Z sounds so awesome with its dual exhaust system, plus i like the dual exhaust better than just the single big @$$ pipe that sounds like a bumble bee
I think the 350Z dynoed at like 240 something. About what an RB25 or 26 will put out. Hell with a few bolt ons, my RB20 can match that. I think theh cost in intself would make this a dumb swap. The engine itself would run you a bunch....I doubt there are many wrecked 350Z's right now....
And my RB20 doesnt sound like a bumble bee........
08-26-2003, 06:56 PM
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LOL so what if you own a 350Z. That is a brand new car. NO way you did basic bolt ons to get 282rwhp. IF you have a blower, well then that is different. At 282rwhp, that would eman the 350Z has a .02 driveline loss. Give or take a few hundreths. I am glad you own a 350Z. If you do, then why on earth would you wanna stick a VQ in a 240 . That is like putting an RB20 in a TTZ32. This arguement is lame. I guess NIssan gave you a "special" VQ35.
And anotehr thing..if you dynoed it at 282rwhp, so proof..like a dyno slip. I am sure you would be bragging everywhere that you have a special Z
. That is like putting an RB20 in a TTZ32. This arguement is lame. I guess NIssan gave you a "special" VQ35.And anotehr thing..if you dynoed it at 282rwhp, so proof..like a dyno slip. I am sure you would be bragging everywhere that you have a special Z
08-27-2003, 06:10 AM
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Originally posted by flstseminolejd
its just whatever you say man, and it is my mom that owns the Z not me. I just love the way they run, so i imagined putting one into my 240....
its just whatever you say man, and it is my mom that owns the Z not me. I just love the way they run, so i imagined putting one into my 240....
a. just buy a Z (whatever generation u like or can afford), or
b. do an rb motor swap in ur 240
in buying a Z (at least a Z32 and up), u'll have ur beloved dual exhaust. however, w/the rb swap, u'll have a fairly deep and non-bumble bee sound that six cylinders can provide. truth is, the 240 was never designed for a 'V' block. if so, there would have been one from the factory in one of the markets in which it was sold (u.s., europe, australia, new zealand, japan). most here agree that, aside from the 'different factor', there's really no point when there are so many other swaps to choose from that are proven to work/fit. hell, if u want dual exhaust and 280+ horses that bad, then get a fox body mustang 5.0 for cheap...
08-27-2003, 07:11 AM
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Your aguements are reduced to......whatever you say???
I backed mine up with facts. There is no POSSIBLE way you dynoed a 350Z at 282rwhp. I would venture to say you wouldnt hit 282rwhp with intake/exhaust/headers. If you had the Stillen blower kit..then maybe. I dont even know if that has been released to the market. I think it has,but that isnt the point. Price alone would make this swap prohibitive. Look how much S15 SR20's cost. Even if you got a JDM VQ. If you want brute power, get an RB series engine. Godzilla could be swapped in for less money witha 5spd RWD tranny and single turbo setup and be comparable inpower and for a lower price depednign on where you get your engine from
I backed mine up with facts. There is no POSSIBLE way you dynoed a 350Z at 282rwhp. I would venture to say you wouldnt hit 282rwhp with intake/exhaust/headers. If you had the Stillen blower kit..then maybe. I dont even know if that has been released to the market. I think it has,but that isnt the point. Price alone would make this swap prohibitive. Look how much S15 SR20's cost. Even if you got a JDM VQ. If you want brute power, get an RB series engine. Godzilla could be swapped in for less money witha 5spd RWD tranny and single turbo setup and be comparable inpower and for a lower price depednign on where you get your engine from
08-27-2003, 11:59 AM
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last i heard 350Z's cost over 30g's. i don't think the swap would cost that much. but his point is price-power ratio. for the money spent you really would be better off getting something like an RB motor.
if you still want to attempt the swap then go for it. i'd love to read about it. it'd be awesome since no one else has done it yet but you have to organize your goals. do you want a powerful 240 or do you just want a 350Z motor? if it's the former then an RB motor would be better. if it's the latter then there's really nothing that can be said to talk you out of it so just try it and tell us what happens.
if you still want to attempt the swap then go for it. i'd love to read about it. it'd be awesome since no one else has done it yet but you have to organize your goals. do you want a powerful 240 or do you just want a 350Z motor? if it's the former then an RB motor would be better. if it's the latter then there's really nothing that can be said to talk you out of it so just try it and tell us what happens.