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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 11:01 PM
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motor scamming

hey fellas, i haven't really posted here before, but i've been on for awhile. anyways, i put up an add that i need a ka24de motor for my 91 hatch. so, i recieved an email in response about the motor and as of saturday, i purchased a ka and manual trans out of a 95 from a guy in Ohio. anyways, i sent him 4 emails after checking w/ western union which i used to wire the money, and saw that the money was indeed picked up.
anyways, after 4 tries for information regarding the motor, shipping number, ect. the person hasn't responded.
i just sent an email stating that if there has been a personal problem that wouldn't let you answer the emails that i sent, i'd understand, but i stated that i'd have to persue prosecution for fraud, and theft. its now monday. i sent the money before noon saturday, and actually, he sent 3 emails before hand making sure i was going to send the money, plus the control number. i said i'd give him 24 hours to respond, or i'd press charges and persue a case. am i in the wrong for jumping the gun for no response, or? he has had well over 24 hours to respond to one single email all weekend. i need some advice fellas. i don't know if he's a fellow member here, but i have his/their names, and addresses. also, he mentioned his roomate. any advice would be appreciated. and sorry for the novel.
Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:44 AM
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Send his info to mods. I would call your local police dept to find out your options. Western Union is bad because that is like sending cash.
Old Jan 24, 2006 | 03:28 AM
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Western Union equals ***ed. I used that to buy a tranny off a guy and had the same problem. Kept makin sure I'm giving the money but once he got it never heard from him again. $350 down the hole.
Old Jan 24, 2006 | 06:18 AM
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seriously? having the reciept and all the emails durring the buisness transaction can prove fraud though. im alittle worried cause after i threated him w/ a case being the 6th email that i sent, he immediately responded and said that he was waiting for a conformation # from ups and that he'd have to special ship due to the price.
first off, i don't think that UPS takes items that large and secondly he previously told me that he'd ship though Yellow transport. i'll keep you guys updated. thanks so far for the help!!
Old Jan 24, 2006 | 08:21 AM
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My computer died and I lost all the convo's that's the thing. It was all just bad timing. Life sucks, move on I guess...hope you have better luck.
Old Jan 24, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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UPS might, obviously you'd have to pick it up but they are certainly capable of moving somethong of that size, you can find out in like 2 minutes if you call a local ups shop, and no not one in an office max lol.
Old Jan 24, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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so far, i guess its okay. after i made the remark of prosecuting him, he responded right back. then i asked him about the shipping and he said he ment to say Yellow, no UPS. anyways, im still keeping an eye on this, and hoping that the guy isn't a scammer. he told me that it would be either today or wednesday that he should recieve a tracking number and the number for the truck that its on. i'll wait, but we'll see.

Preston- sorry to hear about your ordeal! hopefully i won't have bad luck like that bro.
Old Jan 25, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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western union=scammers tool.

NO purchase should EVER EVER EVER involve western union. You need something more secure. Paypal works fairly well though they don't do much when scammers try to use it.
Old Jan 26, 2006 | 06:19 AM
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actually, i spoke w/ a friends dad yesterday. hes a local lawyer. anyways, i mentioned what happend, and if i could prosecute them for this and he said i have more than enough proof of transactions that i can prosecute, and be rather successfull in doing so. i've been patient w/ the guy cause i know what it takes to arrange stuff for shipping, but now he's back to not answering emails. so im going to have to persue actions. im getting all the lawyer sevices for basically free, so i think i might have to just prosecute.
Old Jan 26, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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the hell with the courts....you have a lot of options...do you have the real guy's name...find his name on the directory and get his "real" home address...try looking his email on the web for personal info....Goggle this ****"...and then call him, visit him, etc....I had a looser try this on ebay and found all his personal info on the web and called his Dad...I had my money back within a week... And yes, in case you didn't know Western union is the tool of preference for scammers...dont use use....that s the reason Bidpay went out of businness......
Old Jan 26, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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What was the name and address that the western union payment was sent to? Also what was the guys email. I may have fallen victum to the same person. Please respond ASAP, oh and please email me at doctorjackroberts@yahoo.com. Thank you Thank you Thank you!!!!!

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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 11:01 PM
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email sent

btw, for the mods and anyone else that should know to avoid these guys, the guy's name is:
Cameron Miller
Blacklick, OH 43004

and his roomate is:
David Darby,
Columbus, OH 43207

email is : thecmfactor@yahoo.com
and the name that comes up is "forrest gump"

this guy just responded to me tonight saying that now he can't ship the motor and will send me a money order back paid in full. we'll see about that. i requested that he send it amediately friday or saturday asap. i'll keep a further eye on this. i don't know if these guys are member here, cause they obviously deal w/ 240's and they responded to my WTB add.
Old Jan 26, 2006 | 11:37 PM
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HES ON THIS SITE!!!! This is him!!!!!!

http://www.club240.com/forums/showth...047#post251047

he gave me the same name "Cameron Miller", diffrent email, similar address (though it was the one of his "room mate"), the only diffrent was the zip code. Only concerned with the western union code after knowing i was willing to engauge.

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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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Prove the proof or I can't exactly ban them yet.
Old Jan 27, 2006 | 12:05 AM
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he gave me the same name "Cameron Miller", diffrent email, similar address (though it was the one of his "room mate"), the only diffrent was the zip code. Only concerned with the western union code after knowing i was willing to engauge.

This is the address he gave me:

cameron miller
475 murray ave
columbus oh 43207

why would his room mate have a diffrent address, isnt that what constitutes having a room mate???

and his email now is:

hbeemerman@yahoo.com

and comes up: harry beemer

I am just saying it seems awfully fishy to me

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