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l2aine 12-28-2004 06:15 PM

NEW GUIDE: 240sx VIN / Model ID decoding
 
EDIT: you can find the entire writeup here:
http://garage.projectraine.com

Thanks =)

LTSCUDRFT 12-28-2004 09:52 PM

nice job. :thumb:


How about a suspenision artical on what setting's are good for what set-up's, e.g. track/street, drift, drag, etc. you'd do good on this one. since every artical i see on suspenision setting's you seem to know what you are talking about.

l2aine 12-28-2004 10:20 PM


Originally posted by LTSCUDRFT
nice job. :thumb:


How about a suspenision artical on what setting's are good for what set-up's, e.g. track/street, drift, drag, etc. you'd do good on this one. since every artical i see on suspenision setting's you seem to know what you are talking about.

I would but the thing is, suspension settings are more drivers preference... you can't really say "do this and do that and set this here" and what not because it all depends on the driver and how they like their car to "feel"

Hmm... maybe I could write a general guide on what settings are for and how they can be used... good idea. I'll think about it :thumb:

LTSCUDRFT 12-28-2004 10:24 PM

Perfect :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

C-Walk 12-28-2004 10:30 PM

verry nice write up... but according to your walk through there i have the base model with VLSD. I didnt know that could happen. And trust me i did a double take when i saw it i went back out to my garage and checked that sonof*****.

l2aine 12-28-2004 11:22 PM


Originally posted by C-Walk
verry nice write up... but according to your walk through there i have the base model with VLSD. I didnt know that could happen. And trust me i did a double take when i saw it i went back out to my garage and checked that sonof*****.
if you don't mind, could you PM me your VIN/Model ID? This is the kind of info I need to make sure everything I wrote is good to go.

naptime 12-29-2004 12:07 AM

nice write up 12aine.:thumb: so you do mountain runs.....do you drift also? have you ever tried to participate in the d1 driver search? just curious:ugh:

l2aine 12-29-2004 12:31 AM


Originally posted by naptime
nice write up 12aine.:thumb: so you do mountain runs.....do you drift also? have you ever tried to participate in the d1 driver search? just curious:ugh:
I would like to join a driver's search but I'm nowhere close yet

Bryan 12-29-2004 12:32 AM

great write ups man

Zephyr 12-29-2004 12:47 PM

the writeups will soon be located on another site http://www.240garage.com i started with l2aine another site to basically hold all writeups in one place for 240 owners to view easier... site should be done in a week to two weeks.

its an interactive site that allows ppl to submit their own garage guides as well...

l2aine 12-29-2004 03:19 PM


Originally posted by Zephyr
the writeups will soon be located on another site http://www.240garage.com i started with l2aine another site to basically hold all writeups in one place for 240 owners to view easier... site should be done in a week to two weeks.

its an interactive site that allows ppl to submit their own garage guides as well...


you mean "also be located" :)

d4vech3n 01-09-2005 03:46 PM

Great write up. Your garage guide has to have the most comprehensive guides and tutorials.

Everything on my model ID seems to be accurate. Interesting things are I should of had a front lip. I did notice a while ago that the bumper looked like it had a front lip on it once and called the previous owner who has no clue about it. I bet was taken off during the bargaining process at the dealership from the original owner.

Another weird thing is that my car's destination market is "California Only" but it was originally sold at a Nissan dealership in NJ.

sr20det power 01-09-2005 04:32 PM

hmmm, for some reason its not working for me
anyone else have this problem?

l2aine 01-09-2005 07:16 PM


Originally posted by d4vech3n
Great write up. Your garage guide has to have the most comprehensive guides and tutorials.

Everything on my model ID seems to be accurate. Interesting things are I should of had a front lip. I did notice a while ago that the bumper looked like it had a front lip on it once and called the previous owner who has no clue about it. I bet was taken off during the bargaining process at the dealership from the original owner.

Another weird thing is that my car's destination market is "California Only" but it was originally sold at a Nissan dealership in NJ.

...or the previous owner might have sold it as a standalone... you know how much those front lips go for these days (especially Kouki ones)


Originally posted by sr20det power
hmmm, for some reason its not working for me
anyone else have this problem?

The VIN guide, or the site? If it's the site, I just remembered that I changed some hosting options so the URL goes to a different directory now. I'm uploading the site as I type this... it should be up and running fine in a few minutes :thumb:

sr20det power 01-09-2005 07:19 PM

yea it was the link, works fine now, good stuff!

wikd240 01-22-2005 07:05 PM

hey here is another one that might help some of us out... how many times have you heard my hud this or my digital speedo and gague cluster does that??? i found this when trying to fix mine...
http://multi-index.myonlinesite.com/...0sx_speedo.htm
dont know if you want to link to this or just redo it... im going to start mine tomorrow mornin ... in the cold i might add...

BigVinnie 01-28-2005 06:32 PM

Big Pimpin man, smart idea to cover up the last serial numbers too. You wouldn't wan't someone doing something stupid like lets say........"A duplicate title in there name". That would suck ass. Great right up, I would of scratched my head for weaks tryin to prepare a write up like that one. Good thing you had additional sources.
That makes me wonder......
I have access to a stamping press and since in Cali it is illegal to have the sr20det, I might be able to stamp new fake plate's. Using salvaged title VINs from wrecking yards, and a fresh title. Any one need one for smog. OOPs I might go to prison for that one. Bad joke won't happen, or will it........ F#%k the government.
I give you mad props. That deservs a double DAP.:thumb:

l2aine 01-30-2005 04:52 PM


Originally posted by BigVinnie
Big Pimpin man, smart idea to cover up the last serial numbers too. You wouldn't wan't someone doing something stupid like lets say........"A duplicate title in there name". That would suck ass. Great right up, I would of scratched my head for weaks tryin to prepare a write up like that one. Good thing you had additional sources.
That makes me wonder......
I have access to a stamping press and since in Cali it is illegal to have the sr20det, I might be able to stamp new fake plate's. Using salvaged title VINs from wrecking yards, and a fresh title. Any one need one for smog. OOPs I might go to prison for that one. Bad joke won't happen, or will it........ F#%k the government.
I give you mad props. That deservs a double DAP.:thumb:

LOL

518 02-02-2005 04:16 PM

I checked my 1993 240SX on Carfax.com and the year/make/model is:

JN1-MS36-P2P-W-XXXXXX
1993 NISSAN 240SX/SE

Does that mean its an SE or it could be base or SE?

I checked another 1992 240SX SE A/T that I am planning to buy and and it says on carfax:

JN1-MS34-P4N-WXXXXXX
1992 NISSAN 240SX

Does that mean the car isnt SE and being sold as SE? I havent checked it yet. I might just look at the orange sticker to see if it has LSD on it.

Or I need to see the MIN? But the VIN/MIN article doesnt show how to differentiate an SE vs base or LE.

Thanks and great articles Raine! :cool:

BigVinnie 02-02-2005 04:33 PM


Originally posted by 518
I checked my 1993 240SX on Carfax.com and the year/make/model is:

JN1-MS36-P2P-W-XXXXXX
1993 NISSAN 240SX/SE

Does that mean its an SE or it could be base or SE?

I checked another 1992 240SX SE A/T that I am planning to buy and and it says on carfax:

JN1-MS34-P4N-WXXXXXX
1992 NISSAN 240SX

Does that mean the car isnt SE and being sold as SE? I havent checked it yet. I might just look at the orange sticker to see if it has LSD on it.

Or I need to see the MIN? But the VIN/MIN article doesnt show how to differentiate an SE vs base or LE.

Thanks and great articles Raine! :cool:

Dude not to sound like an a$$hole, but do you know what you are doing when you are displaying vins to the whole world? Dude you need to delet the last 6 digits....... It's not smart to hand it out..........

l2aine 02-02-2005 07:09 PM


Originally posted by BigVinnie
Dude not to sound like an a$$hole, but do you know what you are doing when you are displaying vins to the whole world? Dude you need to delet the last 6 digits....... It's not smart to hand it out..........
Edited both the original post and the quote (LOL Vinnie)

As I stated in the write-up I didn't find a solid way to differentiate between XE and SE/LE for S13 240sx's. When comparing the MIN's of all the S13 people I surveyed, there were no clear cut indications by using just the MIN.

BigVinnie 02-02-2005 07:37 PM

Quick indication of Sport Edition Nissans come with rear spoilers. As an option in Luxury Edition Nissans you get one of two options or both spoiler and/or leather interior included with leather seats"which if you didn't notice is really high grade vinyl". Bose stereo system, or infinity stereo system depending on the factory it came from in the US, with single or 6 disc cd changer.... The SE came with a low grade clarion unit. "I could be wrong about the low grade clarion, not shure".
Then with SE and LE 95-98 you get the 5 lug ABS package.
In Japan LE Silvia's came with Nakamichi stereo systems "a division of Panasonic", Bose, or Infinity all with single or 6 disc cd changer. As an option only in Japan you could have Recaro Racing seats.
As always XE comes with bone stock crap.

518 02-02-2005 08:11 PM

Vinnie, thanks for the reminder.

Raine, thanks for editing.

I have the sponge rear spoiler on my '93 but I guess I will have to go with what the carfax says...looks like I have an SE :dunno:

I searched google for the SE wheel and this is what I came up with...the same alloy that I have on my '93
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/imag...ls/89-93se.png

I bought this '93 two weeks ago and the seller didnt advertised it as an SE. I was thinking about selling it and getting the '92 240SX which is being advertised as an SE model. Im glad I checked carfax...Im keeping my '93 SE then.

Thank you for the replies and the reminding me about the VIN :)

BigVinnie 02-02-2005 08:31 PM

Yep you have an SE model, an XE model has hub caps. Sucks that they didn't list it in the VIN.....
If you have the fast back se, or assumed fast back se, check to see if your car comes with super HICAS. Super HICAS came on all LE's, while only on some model SE's, get's confusing, doesn't it?

518 02-03-2005 08:03 AM

Vinnie, it's starting to confuse me :D

I dont think my assumed fastback SE has a HICAS because I dont see any decal of any kind to indicate that this has a super HICAS. I remebember seeing a HICAS imprinted on the pin stripe behind the doors and one of the lights in the gauge cluster.

Im only finding out about this car, this wasnt my first choice for a used car. It just happened that the seller lives in a very reputable place called Temple City.

l2aine 02-03-2005 12:14 PM


Originally posted by 518
It just happened that the seller lives in a very reputable place called Temple City.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: If you can make it down to our weekly meets one of the PIrates can help you ID your car bro.:thumb:

BigVinnie 02-03-2005 01:29 PM


Originally posted by 518
Vinnie, it's starting to confuse me :D

I dont think my assumed fastback SE has a HICAS because I dont see any decal of any kind to indicate that this has a super HICAS. I remebember seeing a HICAS imprinted on the pin stripe behind the doors and one of the lights in the gauge cluster.

Im only finding out about this car, this wasnt my first choice for a used car. It just happened that the seller lives in a very reputable place called Temple City.

No sweat then man........You have an SE congradulations......It would of been shameful if you had an xe, they don't even come with VLSD...... That reminds me to make shure you don't have a "FAKE" SE, look underneath the car at the diff. If you have a large diff with heat sinks surrounding the casing you defenitely have the SE. To really make shure if you have an SE **** your wheels all they way to the left, spin a donut, when the left wheel pops off the ground and spins out you have VLSD.:thumb:

518 02-03-2005 04:50 PM


Originally posted by l2aine
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: If you can make it down to our weekly meets one of the PIrates can help you ID your car bro.:thumb:
Id love to go the meet but my is A/T with FlowMaster press-bent exhaust :barf: damn that previous owner who loves NASCAR :D

Vinnie, is that a heat-sink? the thing that look like fins??? yeah, the car have those. I'll have to pass on that "donut-test" :D

Thanks you two, you have been very helpful.

l2aine 02-03-2005 10:29 PM


Originally posted by 518
Id love to go the meet but my is A/T with FlowMaster press-bent exhaust :barf: damn that previous owner who loves NASCAR :D

Vinnie, is that a heat-sink? the thing that look like fins??? yeah, the car have those. I'll have to pass on that "donut-test" :D

Thanks you two, you have been very helpful.

Doesn't matter we get some stockers out there too... it's for the people to chill - not some HIN meet like some of the Honda people think it is LOL

ArticDragon 02-04-2005 12:27 PM


Originally posted by BigVinnie
Quick indication of Sport Edition Nissans come with rear spoilers. As an option in Luxury Edition Nissans you get one of two options or both spoiler and/or leather interior included with leather seats"which if you didn't notice is really high grade vinyl". Bose stereo system, or infinity stereo system depending on the factory it came from in the US, with single or 6 disc cd changer.... The SE came with a low grade clarion unit. "I could be wrong about the low grade clarion, not shure".
Then with SE and LE 95-98 you get the 5 lug ABS package.
In Japan LE Silvia's came with Nakamichi stereo systems "a division of Panasonic", Bose, or Infinity all with single or 6 disc cd changer. As an option only in Japan you could have Recaro Racing seats.
As always XE comes with bone stock crap.

Best way to know whether it has HICAS, check the chassis code on the plate by the firwall. If it says KRMS13, you have HICAS. I always thought XE was the "SE" version of the pignose.
BTW, HICAS did not come on any LEs. They came on SEs as an option. LEs are a basic SE with leather interior. :D Hope that clarifies things. BTW, I should know the LE deal, I have one.

BigVinnie 02-05-2005 11:46 PM


Originally posted by ArticDragon
Best way to know whether it has HICAS, check the chassis code on the plate by the firwall. If it says KRMS13, you have HICAS. I always thought XE was the "SE" version of the pignose.
BTW, HICAS did not come on any LEs. They came on SEs as an option. LEs are a basic SE with leather interior. :D Hope that clarifies things. BTW, I should know the LE deal, I have one.

THANX for the clerical error:thumb:
By the way Artic you should post that link to model discriptions. I think you posted it in one of my threads for the 89-94 XE,SE,and LE models, I don't know why I keep forgetting..You posted it about a month ago...It would be very useful for this thread.......
Big Pimpin man..................

ArticDragon 02-06-2005 12:13 PM

NP, here it is.
Zenki S13
http://www.socal**********/faq/1989.html
Chuki S13
http://www.socal**********/faq/1991.html
Zenki S14
http://www.socal**********/faq/1995.html
Kouki S14
http://www.socal**********/faq/1997.html
98 Kouki S14
http://www.socal**********/faq/1998.html

l2aine 03-04-2005 09:19 AM

Updated the VIN Decoder pages a long time ago... sorry, forgot to post it here when I did

KerosineK 08-28-2005 10:22 AM

Great write up man, keep it up. I got a quick question though, is there any difference between where the cars were manufactured as far as quality of the parts?

Bryan 08-28-2005 11:44 AM


Originally posted by KerosineK
Great write up man, keep it up. I got a quick question though, is there any difference between where the cars were manufactured as far as quality of the parts?
Not that I know of

l2aine 08-28-2005 02:37 PM


Originally posted by KerosineK
Great write up man, keep it up. I got a quick question though, is there any difference between where the cars were manufactured as far as quality of the parts?
All 240sx's were made in Japan. I don't know if you take that as a good or bad thing. LOL

BigVinnie 08-28-2005 03:34 PM


Originally posted by l2aine
All 240sx's were made in Japan. I don't know if you take that as a good or bad thing. LOL
Actually the KA is a USDM patent it was made in Mexico until 1998, then the Japanese started the production line in Japan for the Frontier trucks, and Nissan Altimas. You can verify this from the cam production shown on the JWT cam adendum pages. But still follows the Japanese HADUKEN style assembly line. All silvia's and 240sx chassis's were prefabricated in Japan just to clarify.

l2aine 08-28-2005 10:03 PM


Originally posted by BigVinnie
Actually the KA is a USDM patent it was made in Mexico until 1998, then the Japanese started the production line in Japan for the Frontier trucks, and Nissan Altimas. You can verify this from the cam production shown on the JWT cam adendum pages. But still follows the Japanese HADUKEN style assembly line. All silvia's and 240sx chassis's were prefabricated in Japan just to clarify.
But I said "240sx", not "KA".

:p ball bustin' like you and I always do LOL

BigVinnie 08-28-2005 10:49 PM


Originally posted by l2aine
But I said "240sx", not "KA".

:p ball bustin' like you and I always do LOL


HAHA, it's all good playa, playa.

nsn240 02-19-2006 03:13 PM

wow, thats pretty cool. My s13 had the "16" so its fully loaded, but theres no se/le stickers on the rear :dunno:

what does "sport tuned suspension" mean?


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