Nissan designers on crack?
03-07-2003, 01:43 PM
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We have no idea where the VQ35DE will be taken by tuners. It is only now starting to get the serious attention of the aftermarket.
The RB26DETT has a ton of potential... but logic tells me not to dismiss the potential of a motor with almost a liter more displacement that is producing the RB's figures without a turbo.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if we start seeing bolt on turbo kits bumping this baby up over 500hp within the year - and whacky privateers taking it well beyond that number.
-Justin
The RB26DETT has a ton of potential... but logic tells me not to dismiss the potential of a motor with almost a liter more displacement that is producing the RB's figures without a turbo.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if we start seeing bolt on turbo kits bumping this baby up over 500hp within the year - and whacky privateers taking it well beyond that number.
-Justin
03-07-2003, 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by rps13 sr
I dont know what ur say but anyone knows that a turbo charged engine has alot more power than a na v6 engine... now what would u want a v6 or an inline 6 twinturbo.. with the same amount of power.. i choose the inline 6 turbo.....so much power potential while the v6 not nearly enough potential at the factory turbo'd engine.. i know that ur gonna say... just bolt on a turbo kit...well its not that easy cause the fact that the v6 is not made to handle a turbo so then u gonna have a bunch of reliability problems... I'd complain that they didnt bring the rb26dett to the states.... they basically combining the 300zx with the skyline to make a g35 now... i hate the thought of that.. boooo
I dont know what ur say but anyone knows that a turbo charged engine has alot more power than a na v6 engine... now what would u want a v6 or an inline 6 twinturbo.. with the same amount of power.. i choose the inline 6 turbo.....so much power potential while the v6 not nearly enough potential at the factory turbo'd engine.. i know that ur gonna say... just bolt on a turbo kit...well its not that easy cause the fact that the v6 is not made to handle a turbo so then u gonna have a bunch of reliability problems... I'd complain that they didnt bring the rb26dett to the states.... they basically combining the 300zx with the skyline to make a g35 now... i hate the thought of that.. boooo
03-07-2003, 11:47 PM
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the RB26DETT has left quite a legacy, and i can see why some people are unwilling to accept the new gtr as a V6, but...
the RB is not what made the gtr great. ATTESA, HICAS, advanced electronics, and amazing suspension took care of that. yes the RB was a great engine with loads of potential, but 280hp is still only 280hp. look at the z06. we're talkin 405 hp for only ~$50 grand. 280 hp is not jaw dropping.
while the RB with its 1000+ hp potential and 8 grand redline will be missed, i'm sure the new v6 will only be better.
the RB is not what made the gtr great. ATTESA, HICAS, advanced electronics, and amazing suspension took care of that. yes the RB was a great engine with loads of potential, but 280hp is still only 280hp. look at the z06. we're talkin 405 hp for only ~$50 grand. 280 hp is not jaw dropping.
while the RB with its 1000+ hp potential and 8 grand redline will be missed, i'm sure the new v6 will only be better.
03-08-2003, 07:21 AM
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Originally posted by H22HondaCivic
nothing will match Supra. theyre are hella tight! Honda 2000. all great cars with great potential.
nothing will match Supra. theyre are hella tight! Honda 2000. all great cars with great potential.
In case you haven't noticed, neither is made by Nissan, so the drug use of Nissan designers would have no relevance to those cars.
Really, thanks for sharing though.
-Justin
03-08-2003, 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by spitz7985
the RB26DETT has left quite a legacy, and i can see why some people are unwilling to accept the new gtr as a V6, but...
the RB is not what made the gtr great. ATTESA, HICAS, advanced electronics, and amazing suspension took care of that. yes the RB was a great engine with loads of potential, but 280hp is still only 280hp. look at the z06. we're talkin 405 hp for only ~$50 grand. 280 hp is not jaw dropping.
while the RB with its 1000+ hp potential and 8 grand redline will be missed, i'm sure the new v6 will only be better.
the RB26DETT has left quite a legacy, and i can see why some people are unwilling to accept the new gtr as a V6, but...
the RB is not what made the gtr great. ATTESA, HICAS, advanced electronics, and amazing suspension took care of that. yes the RB was a great engine with loads of potential, but 280hp is still only 280hp. look at the z06. we're talkin 405 hp for only ~$50 grand. 280 hp is not jaw dropping.
while the RB with its 1000+ hp potential and 8 grand redline will be missed, i'm sure the new v6 will only be better.
If for no other reason, the RB would have had to go for chassis dynamics reasons. It was a huge cast iron straight 6. With the RB installed in the chassis you have more weight up front and your car becomes front-engine as the I6 will protrude past the centerline of the front wheels. With the V6 installed, the car is a mid-engine car as the whole motor fits behind the front wheels (like the last RX7).
The V8 will probably tuck in behind the front wheels as well, and with some attention it should be able to kiss 400hp off the lot in n/a form. I still suspect that if we get the GTR version in the US, it will be equipped with a 4.5 v8. Just my personal speculation on that.
-Justin
03-08-2003, 10:08 AM
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That's less power than the US WRX STi is going to be producing
03-08-2003, 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by EvilCerealBoX
i hear the USDM WRX STI is gonna a like 25% more powerful then any other version in the world cause the USDM version is getting a 3.0 and the everywhere else (including austrailia and JDM) are getting 2.5 litres
i hear the USDM WRX STI is gonna a like 25% more powerful then any other version in the world cause the USDM version is getting a 3.0 and the everywhere else (including austrailia and JDM) are getting 2.5 litres
03-09-2003, 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by Justin.b
If for no other reason, the RB would have had to go for chassis dynamics reasons. It was a huge cast iron straight 6. With the RB installed in the chassis you have more weight up front and your car becomes front-engine as the I6 will protrude past the centerline of the front wheels. With the V6 installed, the car is a mid-engine car as the whole motor fits behind the front wheels (like the last RX7).
-Justin
If for no other reason, the RB would have had to go for chassis dynamics reasons. It was a huge cast iron straight 6. With the RB installed in the chassis you have more weight up front and your car becomes front-engine as the I6 will protrude past the centerline of the front wheels. With the V6 installed, the car is a mid-engine car as the whole motor fits behind the front wheels (like the last RX7).
-Justin
03-09-2003, 09:05 AM
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I think it's still considered an FR chassis layout. I used to see a lot of writers refer to the last RX7 as FR and then note in parentheses that it is technically a front mid engine car.... I woder if this layout becomes more popular if they will come up with something new to call it.
-Justin
-Justin