I don't think so . . .if he does, this entire thread is pointless . . .

 

the mr2 is a great car no doubt but the suspension setup is not superior to the s13. macpherson struts front and back. the suspension too simple, and too compromised. the s13 has a macpherson strut setup in the front, but it's a very respectable 5 point rear suspension, that is/was quite modern.

for the mr2 to have any sort of trunk at all, they had to use a cheap and simple macpherson strut design in the rear.

mr2s are great autox cars, but for the road racing; it'd go s13 over mr2.

I'd go exige > *****.

$0.02

 

thanks...and yess it has a point because i was debating first which S-chassis i should go with...since i can import a J-Spec S15 or S14(in the Army). then i thought the S15 was best (after research) and then figured out that the S14 is better then the S13.so thats how i started at square one again. espeically since my friend has finish setting his suspenion on his IS300. Then i came across theards aobut the S-chassis Vs the MR2. then i really got lost and i tried to look for flaws and figure out which chassis (s-chassis's,IS300,MR2) is superior.
Nissan has one this "battle" i guess and still researching now which S-chassis to go with...issues like reliability (exterior/interior), best chassis to become greater with mods for road racing. with all that said any opinions on what that list would be? sorry if anything but thanks

 

well ... im in the military also brother.. and just being in the military doesnt give you the right to import/export anything lol. do you have some kind of hook up.

im not trying to belittle you, i just don't want to spread the wrong info to the wrong people.


also Sivlia S14s and the s15 are not godly cars.

you just have a black top (different for both) SR and a wheel on the right hand side.

 

You lie Donny, we're Military . . . we can do anything we want . . . the only reason I didn't import my skylines is because they were crashed . . . yeah . . .that's it . . . that's the reason . . . And all cars from Japan are ultra fast because they are RHD . . .RHD makes a car handle better and gives it 30 extra horsepower . . .plus. . . it's freakin JDM . . . it doesn't get any faster than JDM . . .

We get special privileges because . . .wait. . . where am I going with this again?

Wait . . .no . . . .no . . .HAHAHAHA!

On a serious note though RomeG, being in the Army, as my big brother has already stated, doesn't give any special privileges to import cars from Japan. It still costs a crap ton of money and any car that doesn't meet US DOT standards will still have to be converted. It's not worth the money, you have chassis over here that you can dump the same money into and out perform whatever you'd import.

Bumnah . . . I agree with you up to a point . . .a first generation MR2



Would probably get walked on by an S13

However . . .if we jump into a second generation MR2, I think it'd be a slightly different match. I always use Road Atlanta or VIR as a testing ground but even if we go with Pocono, Topeka, or whatever may have you . . .I think that a 2nd gen MR2 would probably make easy work of an S14.

I do agree with you though . . . .skip both cars and go straight for an Exige . . .MMMMMMMMM! Lotus sexiness . . .

-Dave

 

Yup Exige is pretty much the best car you can buy in my head.

I don't know the road atlanta track, I am familiar with VIR. I'd feel more comfortable going 10/10ths in a s13 than an MR2. I also can't argue which car will be faster as the driver is a big factor.

You really can't go wrong with either car. I'd never buy an MK1 MR2, I think it's one of the most ugly cars I've ever seen. I'd buy an MK2 MR2, only if I could buy it brand new from Toyota right now. Being and early 90s car, right now it takes sooooo much work to get it to drive well, and behave like a new car.

Throttle cables are binding on most of the MR2s I drive (super stiff gas pedal). Shifter cables are binding. Old radiator hoses that need replacing.... hell the have a hose they loving call "hose from hell".

Sometimes I think Toyota is the Chevy of Japan, their cars are really backwards when you start seeing how they're assembled. I'm not in any rush to have any Toyota project car.

However I do like the old s185s (the early 90s Celica Turbo All Trac's).




PS The Mk2 MR2 looks helluva lot better than the s13 stock for stock too.

 

LOL! Correct again my friend . . .and the Celica All Tracs and GT4s are awesome . . .I think I'd take the generation with the 4 headlamps . . .very nice in my opinion.

I know Toyota makes a lot of cars in Japan that are for the general public and for the government, so you're probably very right in your assessment. I think the Supra would be comparable to a Corvette in the eyes of Toyota and the Celica closer to where the Camaro sat.

I mean, hell . . .they even have a Chevrolet Cavalier and a Toyota Cavalier . . and they look EXACTLY ALIKE!

Toyota Cavalier:






Chevrolet Cavalier:







These cars even shared options, packages, colors and interior pieces. Everything swaps over, you can even make your Chevrolet Cavalier Right Hand Drive by just using Toyota parts, LOL!

-Dave

 

if your gona import a car import a s15 u can get a s14 here in the us so no use in wasting our money

 

we get taxes taken from our checks also lol

 

 

hahha is that a answer to his Phelps sig lol

 

well i know i cant but i know a couple of friends from the navy and my cousins(from the USMC) can hook me up in japan. but thats not the case. if i would have to import a car it would be a S15. understand though im just looking for a nissan chassis (or toyota) for road racing. i mean i've been working on a bunch of hondas and since im a car enthusiast i wanted to jump on something else. i know that the S14 and the S15 are not "god" like lol but between the 3 which chassis would become greater with mods for road racing.
thanks and i appreciate the help

 

S14, no importing, tune the engine, turbo the KA or swap it out with something else, suspension upgrades, chassis bracing, pull the interior (or leave it in, full interior is trendy now) put in a FIA/SCCA approved roll cage and run some track days.

Once you're comfortable driving on a track, join the SCCA or NASA, attend a few school, attain your novice permit.

Run three time trials or racing events

Build your logbook

After your logbook has some minutes on it, start preparing for your racing license. Send in a copy of your logbook along with your licensing fee for a racing license.

Start racing on tracks.

I don't know about the rest of this forum, but I've learned from some of the best when it comes to "not pulling punches" so I'm not going to sugar coat it. If you're importing an S15 for the purpose of "Road Racing" not just saying "look at me I have an S15 and you don't" then you're barking up the way wrong tree. Once you get into building and you start getting into serious racing in a SANCTIONED manner, the playing field is leveled.

ALSO!

You will have to have an exception everytime you race your car BECAUSE the SCCA and NASA (the two main racing organizations in the United States) are ONLY setup for USDM cars.

The S15 was never sold here so it has no classification. They might class you in an equal pairing if you're lucky, usually what happens is you get setup with kit cars and one offs. You'll be highly outclassed because if your budget is what I'm thinking it is, (and I could be wrong, I've been wrong before) you will spend so much on importing the car that you won't have much left over to actually build so you'll, once again, have a car that's just for the "look at me factor" rather than anything seriously involving a motorsport.

Sorry if I come across mean, but those I've dealt with in the passed have toughened me to a point where I smell something funny and I try to nip it in the butt before it blossoms out of control.

Thanks!

-Dave

 

like i said s15 is better i love my s14 but i know when another car is just better inside and out

 

What the hell are you saying there?

What I take from it is:

The S15 is better than the S14

You know your S14 better than an S15 (well duh you live in Miami not Nagoya) so you stick with the S14.


What he is asking is, for "Road Racing" (I throw it in quotes because I really don't know what your true intentions are) which car would be better. Since he didn't mention Road Racing in Japan, I'll have to say that if he's trying to stick within normal-person-spending-means he's going to want to go with the S14.

If you're building on a real budget, you can DESTROY an S14 in a well tuned S13 with some fine-tuned driving skill.

Not trying to belittle your comment Adam, I know what you're getting at, I'm just trying to figure out this thread, until I do, it makes no sense to me. This really isn't even a topic of conversation that normally happens on S-chassis . . .

Toyota people will say the IS300 is better
Nissan fans will say the S14 is better or equal

They're both wrong, it's going to depend on the pockets and the skill/dedication of the driver.

-Dave