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ProjectMy240 11-19-2004 05:55 PM

chain guide
 
When the upper timing chain guide breaks off and falls into the engine? where does it usually end up? in lower chain cover,oil pain, does it fall down into a cylinder?

poweredbysatan 11-19-2004 08:57 PM

Usually ends up in the pan, but to get to it you need to rmove the pan :(. Ocasionally itll find itss way onto the valvetrain, but youd know it if that happens. I was lucky enough to remove it before it broke.

ProjectMy240 11-19-2004 09:05 PM

alright poweredbystan how would know if it made its way to the vavetrain. what are the signs please let me know dude

poweredbysatan 11-20-2004 12:28 AM

Well the ungodly noise for one, not the usual injector clicking, or chain rattle. something totally different. But thats the worst case senario. It breaks off, sometimes get caught in the front case, but usually ends up in the oil pan. Have u taken off your valve cover to see if its still there? It took me 10 minutes to pull the cover, check, and put it together again.

poweredbysatan 11-20-2004 12:31 AM

Oh and if its still there take it off!

l2aine 11-20-2004 02:35 PM

if it's not up top, bolted where it should be, then you should find it ASAP instead of waiting for some "clues" and such that it broke. Take the valve cover off - if it's not there and you didn't take it off before, then it fell somewhere. Use a small flashlight and look everywhere for it - it's pretty big so it shouldn't be hard to find. If you can't see it with just the valve cover and front cover removed, then chances are it's in the oilpan. Regardless, you don't want a thick piece (or peices, if it broke) of metal bouncing around in there.

ProjectMy240 11-20-2004 04:03 PM

yeah took valve cover off and the guide that is bolted by two bolts it snapped in half,, took off upper front timing chain cover and I dont see it.

l2aine 11-20-2004 04:06 PM


Originally posted by ProjectMy240
yeah took valve cover off and the guide that is bolted by two bolts it snapped in half,, took off upper front timing chain cover and I dont see it.
it's probably swimming in oil then bro

ProjectMy240 11-20-2004 04:47 PM

well just wanted to know cuz where it went it doesn't really help me now cuz my motor is destroyed now. last week the engine over-heated. I couldn't get home. waited out 1 hour and 30 mins then drove my car home. engine kept making a loud pop sound like the sound when you are cooking pop-corn in the mircowave but this was munch louder and faster. and i could only get the car to go 15mph it wouldn't go any faster then that. so what's up with that?

l2aine 11-20-2004 06:24 PM


Originally posted by ProjectMy240
well just wanted to know cuz where it went it doesn't really help me now cuz my motor is destroyed now. last week the engine over-heated. I couldn't get home. waited out 1 hour and 30 mins then drove my car home. engine kept making a loud pop sound like the sound when you are cooking pop-corn in the mircowave but this was munch louder and faster. and i could only get the car to go 15mph it wouldn't go any faster then that. so what's up with that?
now he tells us.

ProjectMy240 11-20-2004 06:45 PM


Originally posted by l2aine
now he tells us.
lol sorry so what does that mean? my valvetrain is destroyed? or is it connecting rod bearings?

dkdeleon 11-22-2004 11:11 PM

sounds like you mite have spun your crankshaft

ProjectMy240 11-22-2004 11:14 PM

alright thanks dkdeleon. still need to my head tho to find that broke chain guide cuz it wasn't in my oil pan. i think it might of just destroyed my head or my block but not sure

dkdeleon 11-22-2004 11:21 PM

how long have you had the car? because if it isnt in the oil pan the person that owned the car before u got it out. have you checked for metal shavings in the oil pan.

ProjectMy240 11-22-2004 11:26 PM

i had the car for about 5 months and no the guide broke on me cuz when i first got the car it was there cuz when i first got the car i had to replace the valve cover gasket and i saw the upper guide there. then about 2 months later i started having problems with engine knocking took the valve cover off and saw a broke uppder guide


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