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Project Cheap13 12-08-2004 05:22 PM

Why not put a cummins diesel filter on it then? That is what you are saying using your "common sense".

Just because it has more filtering material, how does that make it clean better?

This may get good. I'm going to get my popcorn. :)

wasaabi4784 12-08-2004 09:26 PM


Why not put a cummins diesel filter on it then?
Won't fit as well as the 300zx TT filter? I helped a friend do this , fits in the same bracket, fits the same lines, and most definately a less restrictive filter. For less than 12 bucks ...why not? Not to mention it took 10 minutes! I noticed slightly better response and his engine sounded cleaner in the higher rpms.

rivneo1 12-08-2004 11:04 PM

OMG!
 

Originally posted by Project Cheap13
Why not put a cummins diesel filter on it then? That is what you are saying using your "common sense".

Just because it has more filtering material, how does that make it clean better?

This may get good. I'm going to get my popcorn. :)

:werd:

Project Cheap13 12-09-2004 05:36 AM


Originally posted by wasaabi4784

1. Won't fit as well as the 300zx TT filter?
2. I helped a friend do this , fits in the same bracket, fits the same lines, and most definately a less restrictive filter.
3. For less than 12 bucks ...why not?
Not to mention it took 10 minutes!
4. I noticed slightly better response and his engine sounded cleaner in the higher rpms. [/B]
OMG..here we go.
1. I cant believe you actually tried to awnser that.

2. How can you possibly say it is LESS restrictive? Please give an educated response, as to why you THINK it is less restrictive.( This means a response with more than one sentence)
3. I agree with you there. Mine was actually $3 from WIX.
4. You do understand the reason it "sounded clearer" dont you?


One thing that this thread reminds me of, is an old saying. "You shouldnt talk about what tyou dont know about. Because you dont know when to stop talking".
That fits in quite perfectly, in this thread.

Also. rivneo1. I quoted YOU & now you agree with me, with you very next post? Please explain that.

wasaabi4784 12-09-2004 10:13 AM

Ok you've read 1 post all of 4 sentances long and you think you know me! (Got forums?) I'm not gonna number off my response but try blowing through the stock one and the 300zx filter, air is not fuel but its an ok check. And the whole size of the filtering material thing. As to cleaning better, I doubt one or the other cleans better its a restriction thing. Less restriction is always good. Plz. calm down I dont mean to insult your manhood or anything, give yourself a handie and be done with it. it's just my account of what the new filter did for his car.

Project Cheap13 12-09-2004 12:47 PM

When did I ever say I know you? What does "got forums" have to do with anything? If you post info like this on them. I'll be sure to aviod them.
Blowing through it is an ok check? Really? Thats a new one.
Well lets see. Inlet & outlet are the same. So please explain to the forum, not me. On how a bigger filter, with the same inlet/outlet has better flow, less restriction & can some how overcome the fuel pressure regulator? By adding a "bigger fuel filter" you donot increase pressure, that is what the regulator is for. All it does is hold more fuel.

The reason you THINK it runs better is the simple fact that IT'S A NEW FILTER. Ofcouse a new filter will perform better than a clogged one.

Also, what is a handie?

It has NEVER been proven to increase power, fuel pressure or flow. The ONLY difference is the actual body of the filter is bigger.
Ok here is a test for all of you with both filters. Find a small source of water( say like a small hose attachment), a empty 1 gallon milk jud & enough hose so the water can get into the jug.
Now. Time how long it take to fill the jug with the water flowing through each filter. I WILL GUARANTEE the time will be identical( with the exception if you use dry filter the water needs to fill the filters first).

Anyone want to try it? I already know the results( about 15 years ago to be exact). I also used to be a fuel systems specialist.

wasaabi4784 12-09-2004 02:49 PM

I don't want to argue with you, I have faith that Nissan had good reason for needing a bigger filter on a twin turbo vehicle, or else why didn't they use the 240s filter. Your right the restrictive part COULD be the inlet and outlet, but I'm willing to bet its the filtering material. Also has to deal with how fast the fuel can go through. Why would they use the same inlet and outlet if the restriction wasn't the filtering material. By the way his old stock filter had less than 5k miles on it. That test proves about jack crap by the way. Stick a big ass 300zx fuel pump on it and see how well both filters do. If both have exactly the same amount of power forcing the fluid through, there going to flow exactly the same. Is the stock 240sx fuel pump able to pump faster than the filter allows? I don't know, but my friend saw a difference from this mod so thats all that matters. Handie... don't have time to explain the birds and the bees to you... ;) If you used to be a fuel systems specialist your probably up in the years. Stop acting like a baby and have a civil discussion without slinging crap. I havn't done this on my 240 as I just got it 2 days ago, so please save my 12 bucks and prove me wrong...

Project Cheap13 12-09-2004 03:31 PM

1st off. I'm keeping this civil, by trying teaching you people the truth about BASIC automotive comcept & you are arguing with me about it, when you dont know. I'm not the one acting like a baby, you are with your responses. You only want to believe what you read on the internet. I believe what I know with my 20 years experience( the year you were born) & the countless experts I worked, with along with my MASTER ASE status.

Do me a favor & cut open both filters (make sure it is the same name brand) & look for differences, in the filtering media.
What test proves jack crap? The one with the water & flow? How so? You need to understand that it doesnt matter how big the filter is. The only thing a bigger filter contributes to is the ability to hold more dirt....NOT filter more just hold more( read, mileage between changes & with a 300 maintenance is a bit**).
You also need to understad. A filter has damn near NO effect on how a pump, pumps fuel. You have a REGULATOR to do that. Once the regulator is set the rest of the fuel goes back to the tank. If you dont adjust the regulator YOU WILLNOT get more fuel to the injectors.
Is it really that hard to understand?

I'm not telling you to not buy one. Hell, I have one, but i'm not boasting about it adding power. It was $3 vs. $7 for the 240 filter. I'm just trying to say that people THINK that just because it comes off of a Turbo car that is automatically must be better. When it is not.

wasaabi4784 12-09-2004 04:23 PM


I helped a friend do this , fits in the same bracket, fits the same lines, and most definately a less restrictive filter. For less than 12 bucks ...why not? Not to mention it took 10 minutes! I noticed slightly better response and his engine sounded cleaner in the higher rpms.
Never said anything about power, thats me recommending this filter to people on the forums and I saw what I saw with his car. Stop going on about your automotive education. If I had a dime for every time some "master mechanic" has told me I'm ****ing crazy for mods I've done on my other car, I'd be arguing about fuel filters on a ferrari forum right now. This'll be my last post here, I rest my case your honor.

QR25DE 12-09-2004 08:15 PM

so project cheap? what do u think about the Nismo FPR? =0)

hitokiri_808 12-11-2004 02:10 PM

dude guys i was being sarcastic when i said bigger is always better. following that theory i might as well put a huge T88 turbo on a CA18.

to add to the argument... i don't think the 300zx filter adds any power. what anyone notices is from having a new filter. reason why the 300xz has a bigger filter is because it flows more fuel through the filter and needs to hold mroe dirt. like project cheap said.

rivneo1 12-11-2004 03:43 PM

I never said anything about adding hp ,I said it feels better ,like u said probably the reason why is b.c the change to a brand new filter,and yes the 300zx twin turbo needs a bigger fuel filter b/c it needs more fuel flow and it needs to trap more dirt,thats why the filters is bigger so it can trap more dirt,its probably about the same fuel flow as much other Nissan car fuel filters since this part not only fits the 300zx tt but also the D21 Pickup Truck which is powered by either a KA24E ,Z24 or VG30E engine,it even fits the Nissan 200SX S12 model which is fitted with either the VG30E,CA18ET or CA20E engine but also we gotta think about the Nissan is trying to save some money here by not using a different filter in every single engine,as to why Nissan didnt decide to use this fuel filter the Nissan 240SX its not to my understanding but I still its an upgrade since they use it in a car that has much more potential stock than the 240 and btw the filter cost 12 dollars ,well at least thats what costed to me (same price as the 240 filter:rolleyes: ) so why not try and used it :)


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