Solution To Throttle Response!!
10-25-2002, 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by MR. STRONG
It only takes 10 min
go for it now
It only takes 10 min
go for it now
I think I will take a crack at that bad boy tomorrow morning.
hey it works what can we say?
10-26-2002, 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by StanBo
Damn Rude you and Strong got the guys at the NJ meet doing the mod while we were hanging.
I think I will take a crack at that bad boy tomorrow morning.
Damn Rude you and Strong got the guys at the NJ meet doing the mod while we were hanging.
I think I will take a crack at that bad boy tomorrow morning.
10-29-2002, 11:28 AM
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haha...mine worked...dats prolly why i didnt get any freakin traction. *me and my heavy foot* Tried to mash it den power shifted to 2nd thinking im gonna get it back...didnt happen
So far i can tell theres a huge difference in my car. It may not be *neck-snapping* acceleration but definitely gave me a better response and top end.
So far i can tell theres a huge difference in my car. It may not be *neck-snapping* acceleration but definitely gave me a better response and top end.
Last edited by fliprayzin240sx; 10-29-2002 at 12:52 PM.
10-29-2002, 02:00 PM
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i'm pretty sure it's just cable slack that builds up over around 10 years of wear and tear. you're basically just moving the pedal engagement up. the ecu will still retard the timing when flooring it from a low RPM, unless you've managed to move beyond the TPS or somehow disengage the TPS without throwing a code.
10-29-2002, 03:33 PM
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i have a friend that i was talking to about this and he said he had did this like 4 or 5 years ago on like a 1989 accord and said that it made that automatic faster, but he blew like 4 trannies on it, but it didn't matter since he worked a mechanic shop. but it does work. I might definitely try it now.
10-29-2002, 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by Import Fanatix
Well imme get this straight. Take the cable closest to the front of the car and loosen it. Then tighten the second one and that's it?
I'm gonna try it and take your word for it. Let's see How many cars I can rear end
Well imme get this straight. Take the cable closest to the front of the car and loosen it. Then tighten the second one and that's it?
I'm gonna try it and take your word for it. Let's see How many cars I can rear end
10-29-2002, 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by Import Fanatix
i have a friend that i was talking to about this and he said he had did this like 4 or 5 years ago on like a 1989 accord and said that it made that automatic faster, but he blew like 4 trannies on it, but it didn't matter since he worked a mechanic shop. but it does work. I might definitely try it now.
i have a friend that i was talking to about this and he said he had did this like 4 or 5 years ago on like a 1989 accord and said that it made that automatic faster, but he blew like 4 trannies on it, but it didn't matter since he worked a mechanic shop. but it does work. I might definitely try it now.
10-29-2002, 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by AceInHole
i'm pretty sure it's just cable slack that builds up over around 10 years of wear and tear. you're basically just moving the pedal engagement up. the ecu will still retard the timing when flooring it from a low RPM, unless you've managed to move beyond the TPS or somehow disengage the TPS without throwing a code.
i'm pretty sure it's just cable slack that builds up over around 10 years of wear and tear. you're basically just moving the pedal engagement up. the ecu will still retard the timing when flooring it from a low RPM, unless you've managed to move beyond the TPS or somehow disengage the TPS without throwing a code.
there is NO hesitation when in second gear and you mash the throttle. or in 3 or 4. stop hatin
10-31-2002, 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by rudeboy
i have a good idea... go try it your self and then try saying its some ecu thing
there is NO hesitation when in second gear and you mash the throttle. or in 3 or 4. stop hatin
i have a good idea... go try it your self and then try saying its some ecu thing
there is NO hesitation when in second gear and you mash the throttle. or in 3 or 4. stop hatin
i'm just giving you a reason why it might work, so why take offense to it? All you're doing is taking out slack in the throttle cable, what do you expect? How is it doing anything else other than changing the range of pedal to throttle movement by simply increasing the initial amount of throttle.
If anything, you noticed a difference because of any of the following (not necessarily all):
a. your throttle cable had somehow experienced wear over around a decade of use, possibly to the point that the cable slack prevented reaching WOT.
b. your TPS is out of spec and somehow you changed the range of motion of the TB to reach a WOT TPS reading (assuming your problem was at an upper RPM to begin with... it would actually have to happen the other way around for it to negate tip-in retard)
c. you tightened the the throttle cable enough to change your idle, in which case the only place you'd get "response" from is your initial pedal movement, which wouldn't help anyways.
As for me, I already know that such an adjustment isn't necessary, as my throttle linkage is within spec, and I don't have any problems with engine response.
It sounds more like you've ruined engine response by taking out any control at lower throttle.
I have a question though, was your engine delay occuring at a low RPM or a high RPM. At a high RPM tip-in retard isn't there even in stock condition, AFAIK.
Last edited by AceInHole; 10-31-2002 at 12:10 AM.
10-31-2002, 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by AceInHole
it's probable that you don't know what tip-in retard is anyways.
i'm just giving you a reason why it might work, so why take offense to it? All you're doing is taking out slack in the throttle cable, what do you expect? How is it doing anything else other than changing the range of pedal to throttle
It sounds more like you've ruined engine response by taking out any control at lower throttle.
I have a question though, was your engine delay occuring at a low RPM or a high RPM. At a high RPM tip-in retard isn't there even in stock condition, AFAIK.
it's probable that you don't know what tip-in retard is anyways.
i'm just giving you a reason why it might work, so why take offense to it? All you're doing is taking out slack in the throttle cable, what do you expect? How is it doing anything else other than changing the range of pedal to throttle
It sounds more like you've ruined engine response by taking out any control at lower throttle.
I have a question though, was your engine delay occuring at a low RPM or a high RPM. At a high RPM tip-in retard isn't there even in stock condition, AFAIK.
#1 my car has 74,000 miles on it so i highly doubt "throttle cable stretch" is an issue
#2 if you read the previous posts, i mentioned not to tighten too much as to not alter the idle
#3 you'd really think i wouldn't know tip in retard
#4pedal to throttle movement is the whole point of this simple exercise
#5my engine operates better now at low or high RPM
#6 i think you thik too much
#7 TRY IT. it's not irreversable. come to your own conclusion before you try to knock others hustle. you may or may not like it but thats all you. don't let others think you're GOD and have them follow you off the cliff.
i'm not offended just insulted that youre like a kid not liking something before you tried it
no hard feelins