Ok, I'm gonna be civilized and extremely unbiased about this. First off, yes, Toad you are right, in a straight drag race a stock prelude will beat a stock 240sx. Whether or not that holds true in handling and other senses of what makes a car fast can be questioned, but in a purely straight line situation you are correct.

So why is everyone attacking you then? Your last post you state "do try to be professional rather than resorting to insults" and yet you started this thread with "My bone stock H22A makes any stock KA look stupid" which reads like an insult to me. Please try to be less hypocritical in the future.

If you had come and asked to discuss the merits of the prelude against those of the 240sx, people would not have jumped on you, instead would have defended their car against yours. Yet you did not do that, you came here and attacked us.

So how about you do this. Defend your claims with something outside of insults and attacks, turn it into a conversation instead of a flame war. Try to make sense for a change, and remember, you are the minority here, so you have the burden of proof.

-zac

 

Finally a man (or woman [Must be politically correct.]) of reason. After reading you're statement I realize that there is hope for intelligent conversation. I'm not all to suprised though, I had the exact same reaction when i tried to defend the 240Sx in the Honda forums. But anyway the point is that you figured out my game. Yes The H22A powered Prelude will undoubtebly win (provided that both cars are in stock configuration) racing IN A DRAG SETUP. Which of course means that what the KA24de lacks in quarter mile capability it more than makes up for in manuverability. So in the future when you see a guy in a Prelude acting like his car is Gods gift to racing, challenge him to a drifting competition. to my ears. Someone who makes sense finally. As for my posting in the for sale section, that was an accident upon my part. I clicked start new thread and this is where the post ended up. Oops.

 

 

Im not trying to pick a fight or anything but when you go to a 240sx forum and insult a 240 your just asking 4 it.

 

I have no problem with the 240sx, just the KA24DE. I really wish that america would have allowed the SR20DET back in the days of the S13. Then there would be nothing to dispute in terms of speed and handling.

 

Ummmm, Gee Toad. If the 2.4L was Turboed, it would blow the Holly #$%^ off any H brand. So, whats your point? I mean, the Lude is a good ride, yet it went the way of the 240sx because IT was lacking in many ways Also.
AND to get to the Point of the SR. In N/A mode, it was ALMOST dupe of the KA. In a 1-1 T-bo Mode, the KA will walk an SR. So really, we should be talking Why NISSAN Japan kept screwing the Step Child - NISSAN America..

 

It's the other way around Nissan North America is an ungrateful bastard of a step child, who screws themselves.

 

too bad preludes are fwd...shame on you!!!
hurry up and get out of your honda...than go buy yourself a
240...they are great fun car...

let me give you an advice...this is not a right place to post your honda ads...we're pretty loyal to our 240s...

now...were preludes ever sold in japan...if yes did anybody buy 'em...

 

KA24DE... T?
I'm sure that with your exstensive knowledge of turbo charging NA vehicles you must have realized that since the H22 beats the KA24DE NA, and a turbo KA would beat the H22 (theoretically) then a turbo H22 would most certainly comeback and beat a turbo KA. But that isn't important because neither engine is available with a turbo package and I didn't bother to inlude all the what if's(for instance, what if I put my dads big block chevy engine in my moms pinto? Then I would beat the KA and the H22!) The Prelude wasn't the perfect vehicle for it's time, but neither was the American spec 240sx. The Prelude simply did what it was intended to do by Honda; steal enough attention from the other car makers to keep Honda in the running. It did do that very successfully in the US. I can't very well speak for anyother countries seeing as how they were afforded the luxury of the CA18DET and SR20DET. I'd still have to agree with pr0zac and say that the H22 and KA24DE each have their own advantages

 

Actually Preludes were sold in Japan, and if you had been paying attencion, I own a 240 already. (or should I say I own a Silvia?) Anyway, the point is, get your facts straight then post. It saves everyone alot of trouble and bickering.

 

Actually since the compression of the h22a is really high it wont be that good for turboing the compression on a ka is very low and the internals are built very well so its pretty much a engine that was born to be turboed but was deprived or it.

 

And if you do your homework (www.turbokits.com) you will find that the Prelude is in fact perfect (well not perfect but capable) for turbo applications. A thicker head gasket can bring the compression down from 10.1:1 to a boost worthy 9.1:1. The H22A Also has a higher red line meaning that it will actually be making better use of a turbo set up since it drops down to 5000rpms after going up to redline at 7000rpms. (right inside VTEC range) VTEC loves air, turbo provides air. It's win win. And why bother turboing a KA Haven't you been to 240sx.com and read (whomevers) painful tail of settingup a turbo KA and how much easier it would have been to simply go with a RB or SR swap? (I chose the RB25DET and it's on the way.) If you have anyother misunderstandings or presumptions let me know. Being the owner of a 240 and a Prelude has its advantages, like experience.

 

oh...you own a 240 already cool...
oh my bad...it's a SILVIA...how bout some pics...

 

First off...I would like to say that Toad does not speak for all of us with both a prelude AND a 240. I myself drive a 2001 Prelude and am building up what I hope to be a mean s13 coupe. I do agree however with Toad on the fact that they were sold in Japan...and in fact had a better version than we did here (Type S). Sadly, American Honda Co. Decided not to advertise the Prelude, so it's extinction was inevitable. I personally think the nissan has more potential than the Prelude, but the lude is honestly a beast of a car...especially for FWD. Would I give either car up? Not likely.

 

Thank you! I love both my cars also. I can't pick and choose when it comes to japanese cars. I eventually want an FC3S in order to add a rotary to my collection