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jackyliem 11-15-2004 03:09 PM

AGX or tokico blue?
 
since they are about the same price. which should I get? I know tokico is a better brand but AGX is adjustable. and what spings should I use with them?

ArticDragon 11-15-2004 03:50 PM

Most common and preferred combo AGXs with Tein S-Techs. AGXs are far better than the Tocikos because of adjustablilty.

Wish_itwasJDM 11-15-2004 07:49 PM

Dude u got to get the s.techs with the agxs. I got mine installed yesterday and it drives and look hella good!

jackyliem 11-15-2004 10:07 PM

what kind of damping setting are you guys using?

Levi SPL S14 11-16-2004 12:18 AM

You need to figure out your own settings. Let your butt dyno do the testing.

Texas240 11-16-2004 06:43 PM

stechs are pretty good.
i endedup w/ h-techs & agx's
beautiful combo, drove great in the auto-x.
i end up w/ my front agx's set on 3 and the backs(still messing w/ it.) about 4 or 5.
the non-adjustable kyb's are good, but it's better to just save your $$ for a lil longer & get the good stuffs.

Levi SPL S14 11-18-2004 01:07 PM

AGX are adjustable and Tokico blues are not.

Catharsis 11-18-2004 01:24 PM

agx is better than the blues, the blues are a near stock replacement

l2aine 11-20-2004 02:25 PM

also, blues are more compareable to KYB GR-2's

4984 5fsdskfvjdsntr4 11-20-2004 06:38 PM

The blues r alittle stiffer then the gr-2s but not as good as the agx.

As i see its an overwhelming response. AGX rule!

l2aine 11-22-2004 11:49 PM

How about AGX's with either Eibach or RSR springs :thumb: S-techs are okay but a little too soft when you push the limit

ArticDragon 11-23-2004 02:02 AM

Doesn't KYB warn against using RSR's stiff springs because it'll prematurely wear out the springs?

l2aine 11-23-2004 05:07 AM


Originally posted by ArticDragon
Doesn't KYB warn against using RSR's stiff springs because it'll prematurely wear out the springs?
Note I didn't say RSR Race

jackyliem 11-25-2004 02:18 PM

so does it me AGX is not that hard at all? BTW what's the spring rate for all the brand?

vbgambini 11-25-2004 08:34 PM

So whats the real combo that you guys set your 95-96 240? I plan on putting 18's on it so what combo should i do? stiff and o wheel gap?

l2aine 11-25-2004 09:23 PM


Originally posted by jackyliem
so does it me AGX is not that hard at all? BTW what's the spring rate for all the brand?
AGX's are pretty decent unless you push the limits A LOT. You might want to stick somewhere between a 2.0-4.0 spring if you use them with AGX's, otherwise you can get Koni's (which can be built to match stiffer spring rates, but are a ***** to adjust dampening) or skip the spring/shock combo and go full coilovers.

As for spring rates in kgf/mm (S13 / S14):
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Eibach Prokit 2.0-3.6F* 2.0-2.7R* / ??F ??R
Eibach Sportline 2.5-4.1F* 2.3-3.6R* / 2.4-4.1F* 2.3-3.6R*
RS-R Down 3.1F 3.1R / 3.9F 3,1R
RS-R Race 5.0F 4.6R / 5.0F 3.5R
RS-R ti2000 3.1F 3.1R / 3.9F 3.1R
Tein H-Tech 3.3 F2.9R / 3.2F 3.1R
Tein S-Tech 3.7 F3.2R / 3.8F 3.5R
Whiteline 2.9F 2.4-3.7R* / 2.9F 1.9-3.2R*

* springs are progressive rate

I know there's a bunch of S13/S14 spring rate lists on other forums, but looking through them some list out-dated specs, so in the spirit of Thanksgiving I researched current specs for all of the above springs listed.

As for S14 vbgambini, you might get 0 wheel gap with Eibach Sportlines. However, the wheel/tire might rub if you have the wrong offset or a too-wide wheel measurement. I personally went from S-Tech's and GR-2's, to Koni's and RSR Race, but now I'm running Tein Flex coilovers with EDFC; doesn't matter what wheel I use, I can get 0 wheel gap whenever I want :thumb:

Kaion1000 11-27-2004 09:33 AM

Has anybody had any experience with the new tokico d-specs?


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