staggered wheels?
12-27-2004, 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by l2aine
So Porsche, Lambo, Ferrari, and all them other cars that come staggered from the factory don't do it for a purpose? Cmon now.
LOL I agree with the POS tire comment, but even a POS 355 in the rear will outgrip a POS 175 up front
So Porsche, Lambo, Ferrari, and all them other cars that come staggered from the factory don't do it for a purpose? Cmon now.
LOL I agree with the POS tire comment, but even a POS 355 in the rear will outgrip a POS 175 up front
But still the wider the tire the more contact patch is gonna have .
So both of opinions mentioned here are right!
12-27-2004, 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by LandHo_S13
OKay so we agree staggering helps benefit handling. With the proper tire. And AND looks nice as well. Right?
OKay so we agree staggering helps benefit handling. With the proper tire. And AND looks nice as well. Right?
Just to get some more into this thread - along with the part where you can't rotate, if you're in the high 17-18" range (high as in width i.e. 17x8, 18x9 etc.) aren't the tire sizes commonly used mostly directional as well?
Meaning, even if you don't stagger, you can only rotate forward and back...
12-27-2004, 08:22 PM
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the differancec in grip between two tire will really by a fraction. and just becasue you are widening your tire or your wheel does not nessicarrly change you cotact patch.
you tire presure has as much to do with that as you size of tire along with your alignment and the overall gemetry of your suspention
you tire presure has as much to do with that as you size of tire along with your alignment and the overall gemetry of your suspention
12-28-2004, 12:20 PM
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12-28-2004, 10:03 PM
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i had 17x9 with 235/40's all the way around on my 180 and if i were to switch the front to 17x8 with 215/40 for the staggered wheels it wouldnt make a difference in the performance. i think you guys are getting to deep in to the question. what alot of you guys said above is true about grip but it really has nothing to do about staggered wheels.
12-28-2004, 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by carofchoice
i had 17x9 with 235/40's all the way around on my 180 and if i were to switch the front to 17x8 with 215/40 for the staggered wheels it wouldnt make a difference in the performance. i think you guys are getting to deep in to the question. what alot of you guys said above is true about grip but it really has nothing to do about staggered wheels.
i had 17x9 with 235/40's all the way around on my 180 and if i were to switch the front to 17x8 with 215/40 for the staggered wheels it wouldnt make a difference in the performance. i think you guys are getting to deep in to the question. what alot of you guys said above is true about grip but it really has nothing to do about staggered wheels.
12-28-2004, 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by carofchoice
i had 17x9 with 235/40's all the way around on my 180 and if i were to switch the front to 17x8 with 215/40 for the staggered wheels it wouldnt make a difference in the performance. i think you guys are getting to deep in to the question. what alot of you guys said above is true about grip but it really has nothing to do about staggered wheels.
i had 17x9 with 235/40's all the way around on my 180 and if i were to switch the front to 17x8 with 215/40 for the staggered wheels it wouldnt make a difference in the performance. i think you guys are getting to deep in to the question. what alot of you guys said above is true about grip but it really has nothing to do about staggered wheels.
12-29-2004, 01:00 PM
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i would have done 225s at all the corners
probly pulled and rolled however 17x9 on a sock s14 isnt hard at all 17x1.5 is where sweetness is
well if you are gonna do a comparison at leat compare 185s with 215's
and again as i have said before more of a tires grip has to do with compund than width espicilly on the wheel.
polus i would mutch rathere have these in a 205
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes....er&model=R3S04
than these in a 235
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes....del=XP+2000+II
Originally posted by l2aine
17x9 fit under the stock front fenders? Or did you have wide action?
17x9 fit under the stock front fenders? Or did you have wide action?
Originally posted by LTSCUDRFT
BS! you are assuming that if you switched your wheel's to 215 from a 235 that it wouldn't make a difference, it would that's 2cm of tire that you are taking away. That is like saying that a 240 with 175's on all 4 corners can out handle one with 215's... I think not.
BS! you are assuming that if you switched your wheel's to 215 from a 235 that it wouldn't make a difference, it would that's 2cm of tire that you are taking away. That is like saying that a 240 with 175's on all 4 corners can out handle one with 215's... I think not.
and again as i have said before more of a tires grip has to do with compund than width espicilly on the wheel.
polus i would mutch rathere have these in a 205
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes....er&model=R3S04
than these in a 235
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes....del=XP+2000+II
Last edited by Catharsis; 12-29-2004 at 01:03 PM.
12-29-2004, 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by Catharsis
i would have done 225s at all the corners
probly pulled and rolled however 17x9 on a sock s14 isnt hard at all 17x1.5 is where sweetness is
i would have done 225s at all the corners
probly pulled and rolled however 17x9 on a sock s14 isnt hard at all 17x1.5 is where sweetness is
12-29-2004, 02:34 PM
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I think he meant 17x10.5. Anyways, nice comparison with teh tires there cath, lol. But you have to admit that the wider tire will outgrip the more narrow tire given they are both the same model and make no?
12-29-2004, 03:47 PM
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a very subjective question. what conditions are we talking about?
really it take so much more tire to add much grip that you will be able to notice it. also wheel selection and tire pressue will do as much with thi as anything
really it take so much more tire to add much grip that you will be able to notice it. also wheel selection and tire pressue will do as much with thi as anything
01-01-2005, 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by LTSCUDRFT
BS! you are assuming that if you switched your wheel's to 215 from a 235 that it wouldn't make a difference, it would that's 2cm of tire that you are taking away. That is like saying that a 240 with 175's on all 4 corners can out handle one with 215's... I think not.
BS! you are assuming that if you switched your wheel's to 215 from a 235 that it wouldn't make a difference, it would that's 2cm of tire that you are taking away. That is like saying that a 240 with 175's on all 4 corners can out handle one with 215's... I think not.
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01-01-2005, 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by l2aine
17x9 fit under the stock front fenders? Or did you have wide action?
17x9 fit under the stock front fenders? Or did you have wide action?
edit: my sig is gone so you cant see. if you want pics i can email them to you.
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01-02-2005, 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by carofchoice
your reading it wrong. changing my front wheel/tires from a 17x9 with 235/40 to 17x8 with 215/40 has very very little to do with grip. now if it were going to bigger wheels in the back then yeah i would have more grip but not enough to tell. i didnt change the grip in the rear but i have staggered wheel. how does that bennifit? maybe a couple of pounds in weight
your reading it wrong. changing my front wheel/tires from a 17x9 with 235/40 to 17x8 with 215/40 has very very little to do with grip. now if it were going to bigger wheels in the back then yeah i would have more grip but not enough to tell. i didnt change the grip in the rear but i have staggered wheel. how does that bennifit? maybe a couple of pounds in weight
Originally posted by carofchoice
i had 17x9 with 235/40's all the way around on my 180 and if i were to switch the front to 17x8 with 215/40 for the staggered wheels it wouldnt make a difference in the performance. i think you guys are getting to deep in to the question. what alot of you guys said above is true about grip but it really has nothing to do about staggered wheels.
i had 17x9 with 235/40's all the way around on my 180 and if i were to switch the front to 17x8 with 215/40 for the staggered wheels it wouldnt make a difference in the performance. i think you guys are getting to deep in to the question. what alot of you guys said above is true about grip but it really has nothing to do about staggered wheels.
01-02-2005, 09:33 AM
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explain to me how going with a smaller wheel/tire up front is going to make my car perform better. i never said that a car with the same size tire all around is going to be better than one that has staggered wheels. of course the bigger the tire the more girp you have on the drive wheels but going to a smaller wheel up front is not going to do anything when you are going in a straight line, it may help with drifting.