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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 12:45 PM
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Last post on this thread...by me.

If it was up to me, (but who am I but just another dick on the net)
I would just swap an SR and build it up.

HOWEVER, If you're goal is to drag, street race, etc...
RB26 swap would be sick due to the stock hp level..
IF you spend a sick amount of detail and money into your suspension and tread to put the power down...
by all means... IT WOULD BE SWEET. Like it was said B4.. originality goes along way.

Who are we, but just a bunch of guys on the net throwing bits of info around about a swap we personally have never done??

IMO, (I repeat) IMO - you could COMPLETELY do this swap with minimal help from a shop (IC piping, shortened Driveshaft, engine management).. some crazy elbow grease and patience.. for under $13k. PARTS AND ALL. Peace---

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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 01:40 PM
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after doin the math on this swap i think the most difficult part would be gettin the R32 front cross member (or R33) into the car then mounting the engine w/tranny. you'll proballt have to obtain a custom hood


wait one more thing... a built SR can lay down around 700hp. so the olny real differnce will be weight...........right.?.

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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 03:02 PM
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Yes its heavier and harder to work with due to lack of parts availability.
Old Sep 11, 2002 | 06:12 PM
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thanx for all the input, got 1 more ?? though, would and s13 red top sr20 be able to handle 300hp to the fly(250whp) on a completely stock engine with engine managment like the blue boxes from apex. Read that somewhere but they didt make it very clear
Old Sep 11, 2002 | 08:14 PM
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Yes, 250whp is about the limit on stock internals and turbo but i dont believe you need any stand alone engine management to get there. Just up the boost to ~15psi.
Old Sep 11, 2002 | 09:37 PM
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just remember, the stock turbine is (T25) ceramic, it doesn't like continued boost above 1.2, 1.3 kg/cm2 - It tends to shorten the life of the turbo

1.2 is fine on stock internals with "the right fuel"...
but 1.0 is plenty enough power for daily use and safer.
MAX hp for doing everything except turbine and internals is said to be around 280ps
Old Sep 12, 2002 | 08:08 AM
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Originally posted by Sickboy
Last post on this thread...by me.

If it was up to me, (but who am I but just another dick on the net)
I would just swap an SR and build it up.

HOWEVER, If you're goal is to drag, street race, etc...
RB26 swap would be sick due to the stock hp level..
IF you spend a sick amount of detail and money into your suspension and tread to put the power down...
by all means... IT WOULD BE SWEET. Like it was said B4.. originality goes along way.

Who are we, but just a bunch of guys on the net throwing bits of info around about a swap we personally have never done??

IMO, (I repeat) IMO - you could COMPLETELY do this swap with minimal help from a shop (IC piping, shortened Driveshaft, engine management).. some crazy elbow grease and patience.. for under $13k. PARTS AND ALL. Peace---

-S
the pic was just a pic to show you a pic of the engine in the engine bay, no other reason.

now i understand you might not know people who do rb swaps into 240's.

now the first issue is going to be if your moving the firewall back, or the radiator support forward to fit it. THere has been discussion recently of not having to modify the engine bay, and 'squeezing' it in there, but it hasnt been fully determained yet. If at the easiest side, you wouldnt have to, otherwise you would be modifing the engine bay, which isnt a easy DIY job, but can be done. Now since the turbo's will have to be relocated on a lhd car, thats more modification a little hard to do in your own garage. but it can be done. Also the talks are that you should "not have too" have a custim intake manifold made.
Then the next problem is if your using the stock ex. manifolds (which custom you would be better off) you will run into problems with hood clearance, unless your going w/ a hood scoop. and even the brake master cylinder being in the way. The turbo's sit high.

The 2jz swap probrobly makes more sense among most people in the scene, osofast240 went that direction, but now will most likely swap it out, and swap in the Rb26dett, since NHRA wont let him run w/ a diff manufactured engine then make of the car.

Doing a RB25det will be a little easier since it has been done before, and you can get advice, or get the swap installed by unstable-hybrids if you wanted.

the rb26dett is out there in japan, and like i said osofast is leaning that way, but the definitive answers on all that has to be done will still be to come.

personally if you want a straight 6 w/ twin turbo's id say 2jz for convienience of going rwd to rwd, and not awd into a rwd car.

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Old Sep 12, 2002 | 11:49 AM
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yeah but as long as this ain't his daily driver then he's good. it could take him a year to complete the process and still have a car that we'd all love to drive.
Old Sep 12, 2002 | 11:51 AM
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a 2jz in a 240?? guess thats possible but ive never heard about it, but it sounds like a kickass idea. Could anyone send or post info about what this swap involves, price, probs., etc.
Old Sep 12, 2002 | 09:16 PM
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Okay.. so I said last thread. I lied. Sue me.

--No need to move the firewall.
--Use top-mount Single turbo set-up to avoid master-cylinder
--Custom down-pipe to avoid the steering.
--mmmhhh. a 2.6 much bigger than 2.4??
--Did I mention HPmotorsports in Omaha (of all places?) is doing the same swap?

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a day at the track...in Nago before I completely dissambled her.


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Old Sep 12, 2002 | 10:23 PM
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looks like sileightymania..... !
Old Sep 13, 2002 | 06:29 AM
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Originally posted by Sickboy
Okay.. so I said last thread. I lied. Sue me.

--No need to move the firewall.
--Use top-mount Single turbo set-up to avoid master-cylinder
--Custom down-pipe to avoid the steering.
--mmmhhh. a 2.6 much bigger than 2.4??
--Did I mention HPmotorsports in Omaha (of all places?) is doing the same swap?

peace-
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a day at the track...in Nago before I completely dissambled her.


most people dont have the means to weld/make their own exhaust manifold for the RB26det in their own garages, but i understand some do...
How much space are they finding to be infront of the motor? Enough for a 2 or 3 row radiator, and stock fan? or have to use thinner dual electric fans?
Is the 240 going AWD?

http://www.meggala.com/hybrid.html

its definitly a nice project, and is a swap done in japan.
Yes, osofast240 had a 2jz Performance Factory motor, built a 8 sec car, but he is leaning towards pulling that and going w/ the RB26dett for next season.

http://members.blackplanet.com/osofast/
Old Sep 13, 2002 | 06:30 AM
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and .2L of displacement isnt too large in physical size, but 2 extra cylinders is
Old Sep 14, 2002 | 03:34 AM
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2 or 3 core...electric fans
NOT AWD- That is why you need the transmission from
a Skyline GT25t, It bolts up and is RWD and strong enough.

...the only Skylines that are AWD are the GTR's and a four-door Skyline called the GTS4t or something like that...my friend had one but he took off the emblems ..It came with an RB25DET.

...If find a good import distributor you should be able to find the manifold or even a full kit.

2Jz would be a nice swap...into an IS300...or SC300..

ahh...skip the hassle, buy the SR.. and go to town.
Old Sep 17, 2002 | 11:35 AM
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jfyi: There is a RB26dett into a 240 on LI right now.....



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