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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 06:50 PM
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Hey, don't get mad or anything--we just want to help you. Lol, we don't really hate you. You're taking it too hard.

This is slightly off topic, but how old are you?

Also, you still haven't told us what these power goals are, do you get what I'm saying? You say you want power, power, power, power, yet I don't know how much of this power you want, or what is realistic for your goals...

You say you want to drift--is your car going to be daily driven as well? I can't answer these questions without you telling me...so all I know right now is that:

1) You want power
2) You want to drift
3) Your friend has an S13
4) You are getting an S14
5) People are calling you gay

That is all I know about you. Please tell me more of what you want out of the car, and some sort of goal in terms of horsepower...and we'll go from there. We'll start over--we got off on the wrong foot. Ready...and...

Go.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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lol thanks man, but u really cant tell how people say what they say when its typed in words. so ne ways

i think im gunna shoot for around 350 daily driver and drifting, only a summer car though since winter wouldnt really flow my way when it comes to drving a rwd.

i was looking at some HKS products but since i dont know from experience and only know from pictures and numbers i couldnt really say what i want. i get everything i need wholesale though so money is really not a huge issue, i mean money is money but its not like paying retail.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks 350 hp is grossly excessive to learn how to drift with? And why would you want any internals for that amount anyway?
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 07:42 PM
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350 is also a pain in the *** to daily drive too unless your commute is mostly all highway. SR, KA, or RB, daily-driving a 350 hp car is just a lil gas-guzzling overkill.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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why is everyone knockin my project, i dont give a crap about gas its never really bothered me much, i dont care if u dont think i can drive, just someone help me out here with the bolt ons that would be good for my car

sorry for sounding like an A-hole, but ive had this thread going for a while and ive grown a lil impatient

350 daily driven drift s14, thats it, if nobody is willing to help... well i dont know ..lol.. but yea......

initial daniel sounds like he knows his stuff maybe i should just talk to him since people are so concerned with my gas spendings and drivin ability...
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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yea and also if anyone wants ne parts for thier car let me know ill get ur stuff for a lil over wholesale, i do have my licenses for running a retail business and i have my wholesaler. but anyone willing to help me with some info im willing to help them, thanks

anyone want to check out my wholesalers old site its at

www.wholesalerhyperformance.com

new one is under construction right now
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by LandHo_S13
HKS GT2535 has great power and response.
all the GT series turbos are good stuff... my friend is running a gt2871r with 550 injectors (i think) and it makes more power than you will need... this is all on a stock sr20det
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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Well, I wouldn't say I know what I'm talking about, but I know a little bit. I'm still learning along with everyone else.

350hp crank isn't too hard, maybe even on stock internals. I wouldn't risk it though. In general, I don't like pushing the envelope like some people do. I wouldn't go over 250whp on stock internals. I'm sure people have done it, and say that (depending on the car) that it's safe, but honestly going from a N/A car (with no turbo version) to Turbo is quite the endevor.

Anyway, thats beyond the point--the biggest point here is RELIABILITY! That is the goal here. There is a saying:

Fast and Cheap is not Reliable
Cheap and Reliable is not Fast
Fast and Reliable is not Cheap

You can have two, but never all three--with that said; if money isn't that big of a concern like you say, then you want the latter on the list. I digress...

SR20 will be able to handle a lot of power stock. Maybe even 350 crank hp. If you REALLY want to build your engine to be a power house, though...it's always a good idea to start with the bottom end. Most common disaster that can occur/cripple an FI vehicle pushing big numbers is ROD FAILURE. Knowing this, you might want to start off with a set of forged pistons and rods.

What kind of compression ratio, brand, etc. That is up to you.

From here you can go several ways:

Upgrade to a larger turbo, bigger injectors, higher flowing fuel pump, wastegate, and perhaps invest in an intercooler as well as a blow off valve. Even with these upgrades you won't see very good numbers or (heres that big word again) RELIABILITY!!

What do you ask we should do about this? We should invest in a good fuel management system! This is one of the KEY PARTS to building your powerhouse, no matter if you are FI or N/A--EVERYONE needs good fuel management. What you choose to do this is very important; remember, you get what you pay for.

The second key part to this is TUNING. I can't stress this enough. Especially people coming from American Muscle cars, the clearances of those engines are really forgiving. The high displacement and typically more cylinders will allow someone to give the car a wilder cam profile, and see VERY GOOD GAINS!

Generally speaking, MOST IMPORT VEHICLES DO NOT WORK THIS WAY. The clearances are WAY tighter--although this is what makes them so fuel efficient, and typically last longer than your average GM, Ford, etc.

So please, if you don't learn anything from what I've told you; at least invest in good fuel management and tuning. This could save you later down the road from trying to replace your cracked block, spun bearings, broken rods, etc.

There are a lot of specifics that we could get into, although you haven't started your build yet; infact I don't think you even have the car yet. Best thing to do is make a goal, and STUDY, STUDY, STUDY up on how to get to that goal. Who knows--along the way your goals might change to what is more realistic for you.

Asking questions is a good start, but I am hoping that through your own research you can slowly start to narrow it down to more specific questions on the path that you've started for yourself; this way we can help you further, and also answer questions for other people as well.

Good luck.

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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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thanks a lot man, that really helped my understanding a bit more, so like i said, you want parts i can get them for you, and if u need proof of licenses i can scan them, my wholesaler (wholesalehyperformance) has everything, i dont know much about the parts from experience besides telling my sales rep what and where to ship them to, but i know we have a lot and i know we have tons of nissan items. so please if you need something, dont hesitate to ask, ill do my best at getting you what you need

and thank you again. exaclty what i was looking for from the begining.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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i attached a pic of the s14 i am buying

it has 200k on the engine and body
needs new head
cracked front left headlight
asking 1700
worth it?

im planning on converting the front end to kouki

any suggestions on that?
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by Initial Daniel
350hp crank isn't too hard, maybe even on stock internals. I wouldn't risk it though. In general, I don't like pushing the envelope like some people do. I wouldn't go over 250whp on stock internals.
I hope you don't mean an SR20DET. 250+ whp is what a stock T25 on an S13 can do, S14's and S15's... your looking at over 300. That's no where near the reliablity limit. 350 at the wheels would still be a reliable set up on stock internals.

Look all you need for that much power is:
GT2871R .64
Intake (FMIC, Z32 MAFS)
Fuel (injectors, ecu piggyback)
Exhaust

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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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all you need is a headgasket and fmic and you can turn the boost up to 17psi all day long and have 300hp.

you may find out you're content with that
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 04:08 AM
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Originally posted by I'm with Stupid
I hope you don't mean an SR20DET. 250+ whp is what a stock T25 on an S13 can do, S14's and S15's... your looking at over 300. That's no where near the reliablity limit. 350 at the wheels would still be a reliable set up on stock internals.
I never ment 350whp...which is why I said to the crankshaft...lol. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

I totally understand what you're saying though, and I thought he was getting the swap from the S14...or maybe I mis-read somewhere.

The car looks good though--let us know how it turns out.

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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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sr20det's have been built to 600 hp on stock internals...
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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sr20det's have been built to 600 hp on stock internals...
Yeah. I've heard of people building them up to that much HP, but for me--I think that is pushing the limit of reliability a bit much--but hey if it can be done, it can be done, no arguing that. Incase something would happen though--better be safe than sorry. I've seen freak accidents happen before even on low boost (10-12 psi). You just never know...



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