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....Rb25det front clip question....

Old Nov 17, 2003 | 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by jonpowell
Here is that list I promised, I never got to the office this past weekend I apologize for that. I vouch for NONE of these places, just a list I am compiling of places that might carry an RB25DET or be able to get it for you.

www.tbracing.com
www.flashoptions.com
www.racingworks.com
www.racinghard.com
www.venus-auto.com
www.unstable-hybrids.com
www.xatracing.com
wwww.visualizemotorsports.com
www.jarco.com
www.ranjainc.com
www.jspecautosports.com
www.dragdriftautox.com

If I come up with more, I will post them also
cool, thx jon
Old Nov 17, 2003 | 10:08 AM
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There were a few more that I didn't write down and now I can't remember..I will post them when I do.
Old Nov 17, 2003 | 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by jonpowell
Here is that list I promised, I never got to the office this past weekend I apologize for that. I vouch for NONE of these places, just a list I am compiling of places that might carry an RB25DET or be able to get it for you.

www.tbracing.com
www.flashoptions.com
www.racingworks.com
www.racinghard.com
www.venus-auto.com
www.unstable-hybrids.com
www.xatracing.com
wwww.visualizemotorsports.com
www.jarco.com
www.ranjainc.com
www.jspecautosports.com
www.dragdriftautox.com

If I come up with more, I will post them also

www.tbracing.com
www.flashoptions.com - many threads about them
www.racingworks.com
www.racinghard.com - same as FlashOptions
www.venus-auto.com - plenty of threads about them
www.unstable-hybrids.com - to my knowledge, they no longer sell engines or do swaps

www.xatracing.com - extremely expensive from what I've seen.

wwww.visualizemotorsports.com - another FlashOptions outlet
www.jarco.com - far as I know, a reputable company
www.ranjainc.com
www.jspecautosports.com
www.dragdriftautox.com

Any other companies I didn't write in reguards to, I don't know anything about. Definately do your research on companies that you buy from so that you don't get screwed.

www.night7racing.com - plenty of threads about me. people believe what they want, seeing is believing and I have a month left before people can start believing again.
Old Nov 17, 2003 | 11:18 AM
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Why is it ok for you Cameron to say negative things about another company, even though you haven't done business with them. When I say negative things about you its harassment?

www.Streetimports.com was selling RB's for a while, I dont know if they are anymore.

Congrats on getting me banned from NICO, I guess I will buy advertisement space there to get signed back up.

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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 11:37 AM
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In my last thread I didn't say anything negative about any companies. I just stated what is on other forums (lots of threads). I didn't get you kicked off of NICO, I wasn't even on NICO when you got kicked off...it doesn't take money to get back on NICO, it takes respect for the rules and knowing when to quit.
Old Nov 17, 2003 | 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by NightXCZ77
In my last thread I didn't say anything negative about any companies. I just stated what is on other forums (lots of threads). I didn't get you kicked off of NICO, I wasn't even on NICO when you got kicked off...it doesn't take money to get back on NICO, it takes respect for the rules and knowing when to quit.
"In my last thread" is the kicker there. I am quitting. You seem to have won. I know the truth as does everyone else but you. If people think that you are a good supplier, so be it. Congrats on all the brainwashing.
Old Nov 17, 2003 | 11:43 AM
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Sorry man, I have documents from the shipping company now that confirm my container and the ETA...engines arrive and customers get em...that's the way it is going to go. No one has won or lost here, all that has happened is that a situation is being resolved. I still don't understand what your ploy is with me.
Old Nov 17, 2003 | 11:48 AM
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No ploy, my hats off to you.

NOW you have documents, what about the other times you had shipments coming in?.....Just wondering, not attacking.

What kind of compensation are you making for the delay, free shipping maybe?
Old Nov 17, 2003 | 11:49 AM
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whats up with the XAT stuff.....I have done more than enough research and expensive is not what I found.....but anyway....
Old Nov 17, 2003 | 12:00 PM
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There has realistically only been one other time that I had a shipment coming in. That was why I flew to Japan. The shipment was supposed to arrive sometime late October, however, the person I was buying the engines from decided after I left that he didn't want to load the container ($900 loading fee), he wasn't going to pay the Japanese Tariffs ($150 per item which is bogus...there was about 20 items) and then he wanted to use a higher priced shipping company to first ship it from ***uoka to Tokyo and then to me (more money and storage fees). The total for shipping and customs came out over $7000 by the time it would have hit stateside...which would have caused me to lose money which wouldn't have helped in this situation. He then decided that he didn't want to ship them to me or my friend who was taking over the shipment (because he didn't care if he broke even or lost as long as he got motors) because he was going to ship them to the states himself (which he had done behind my back 2 days prior). He loaded it himself to save money, used a different shipping carrier etc... and he is still waiting on them to arrive.

Before then, I was still dealing with Rob (which is who I have trying to get out from under the last few months by gaining my own supplier)...who told me he had the shipments coming on this date, or this date....he told me he had shipped out 3 clips to my customers...which never arrived to them and the shipping company had no information about it...then his containers were locked up in customs (which is a true story by the way)...and since, I have no idea what is going on with that. I was the middle man, relaying information from the secondary source (rob) to my customers....so everything he told me, I told to them...if he told a lie, that means I did as well which didn't help me out at all.

If I could afford free shipping and had the money to do so, that would be something nice for compensation, but as it is, I have $170 in my bank account, $380 in bills on my chair and tens of thousands out on this shipment...

I don't see any reason why you and I can't get along...you seem to be a nice enough guy when you want to be and you have a lot of information to share which is nice. Hope this little post helps you out in figuring what happened. I am still owed over $20,000 from one individual, but I hope that will be resolved soon and help me pay back my family from whom I borrowed money from to cover this shipment.

Cameron
Old Nov 17, 2003 | 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by Judge
whats up with the XAT stuff.....I have done more than enough research and expensive is not what I found.....but anyway....
$3800 for a RB25DET clip, $3400 for install with about $1300 worth of parts. I find that a bit expensive for my tastes, but those are just my tastes. McKinney Motorsports is right around that price and I would bargain that McKinney will do a better job since they have been doing this for a bit longer. If you are going to pay that kind of money, go with a company that is well known.
Old Nov 17, 2003 | 12:22 PM
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I tell you what Cameron, I will drop this IF the motors come in on DEC 8th, like you say and no more excuses. I think you should AT LEAST give them free shipping considering the mess your decisions have made. I don't want to be an jerk, but YOU decided who your sources were and these people took your decision process to be a good one.

I am DONE with this arguement if you agree to 2 conditions,

#1 You agree that if the stuff FOR ANY REASON doesn't come in one time YOUR FAULT OR NOT, you will go on record as saying I was correct the whole time.

#2 You agree not to bad mouth any other company for any reason. You are a business now and it looks tacky when one business badmouths another business to get more business.

Does this seem like a fair middle ground? I will have neither a negative nor positive opinion of you here out if you agree.



Prorican...sorry about hijacking!

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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 12:34 PM
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If I could afford to give free shipping, it is something I would consider. Just a comment on the supplier (sources) comment:

Rob and I had conducted business for 6 months fairly flawlessly. I had received clips and had them shipped out time and time again. Unstable-Hybrids (another known company) also purchased engines from Rob for quite some time. I could not predict what was going to happen just as no one else could. He was always nice to me and kept in good contact with me. He was doing me a favor by supplying me with engines when he could have sold them himself and made a lot more money. My decision to use him as a supplier was a good one as I never received a bad product, however, his negligence to put the correct tariff numbers and correct product quantities on his commercial invoice, ended up costing him 10's of thousands of dollars and left me with a bad situation. He is getting back on his feet as am I, but now we are separate businesses with separate suppliers. I don't regret using him as a supplier, but some times bad things happen, in this case it was very unfortunate.

The motors (my container) has an ETA of December 8th for Long Beach, California, which means that within about 7-10 days from arrival, they should be in sunny Phoenix, Arizona ready to be sent out. Sometimes, customs checking takes up to 7 days in itself, sometimes it can take a little bit more depending on how thoroughly they check the container and how many containers they have to check. To arrange shipping after the container is released can take 1 day to 7 depending on how busy the shipping company is and how soon they will be in the area to pick it up. Shipping will take another 7-10 days to each customer which means that hopefully everyone will have a great Christmas engine arriving. There are a lot of things that can go wrong or take longer than they should...I can't really control customs or the shipping company, but I will do the best I can to make it timely.

I rarely bad mouth other companies (minus a long time ago with Unstable-Hybrids), the only thing I will do is warn people about other companies. I have personally done business with Venus Auto in the past, I know their quality, and have many a friend that have had many a problem with them...that is why I am able to speak of them. I also have a friend that has lost thousands to FlashOptions who is the same company as RacingHard. They have also tried to Coax me into buying engines from them of which I declined just recently because they couldn't prove to me after several requests that they had engines in stock and because they were very sketchy...and had screwed over one of my friends. As for any other company, I can only post what I know. This information includes their supplier (if in the US) and that's about it. That's where VisualizeMotorsports comes in because he told me personally that he was buying from FlashOptions/RacingHard.

As per your first term, I don't understand what you would want me to say...especially if I were to say that you were correct, because you don't have the complete story and I haven't read half of what you have written because it would just cause my blood pressure to rise. If there is any problem whatsoever, I will make clear what the problem is, how it will be handeled, and the responsibility thereof.

Number two: just as it is tacky for one business to bad mouth another, I must say that it is tacky for one person to attack a business he is not in arrears with financially. If you can agree to leave my situation in my hands and the hands of my customers, I have no problem with #2.

Night

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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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Screw it, either way I am not going to do anything on this or any other board, just remind people, the same as you are with Unstable, Flash Options, Visualize, of what happened. I think that you should forget about you financial problems and make it up to these poor guys for the bad decision you made with their money, but I am done talking about this on any forums.

Good luck with your business, I truly hope that you come clean and get things rectified, but I have my reservations. Make sure that you make up for the lost time for these guys. Some way. Get them free shipping, get them some maintenance parts for their engines(water pumps timing belts, thermostats, spark plugs, drive belts, something). Help them feel at least a little better about doing business with you. You gotta make it up to them. Getting them their motors isnt making it up to them, its just giving them what they are owed. Go the extra mile and make them HAPPY they did business with you. Make them HAPPY they spent that $$$ and waited 9 months.

I am done, no ill regards, no good regards, but as of now I cannot nor will I recommend your business to anyone until you come through AND make good with these guys.

Imagine if they took their cars off the road with expectations of the motors coming when you said, it would REALLY have sucked for them...
Old Nov 17, 2003 | 12:47 PM
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Are you doing a wiring service for the RB's?

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