240sx 101
 

Hey guys. Im totally new here, im 15, 16 in a week, i live in Florida, about 20 minutes from Tampa, and I dont get my license till sept. 27.

anyways, ive been looking for a car for a while now, something to motivate me to get a job and work alot:D

anyways, i came across a 240sx, and im pretty much in love. ive heard of them before, known for their drifiting, but i want to learn as much as possible about them, since it will be my future car, im probly going to get a 91, 92, or 93, because you can get them for only like 2k and I have to buy my car myself:(

oh well, older is better, cuz i can work on it alot.

so just basicly please tell me everything about them, heres some general questions...

1.) how many miles can these things handle? the used ones im seeing are all mid 100k.
2.) whats the top speed on it?
3.) whos the rival? like, on the road and stuff, any rivalrys?
4.) good choice for first car?

might have more, just tell me everything I should know, thanks!:thumb:

1) Depends on how well it was taking care of
2) Plan on driving fast?
3) Sounds so Initial D, what do you mean rival?
4) Depends, if you plan on acting like an ass and trying to drive 100mph and race everyone then I say no, buy something else because all your going to do is hurt yourself or worse yet someone else.

ive been driving since i was 13... so im an experienced drive, and I race Race Cars. So i know what im doing. and no, i dont play on just driving fast.

and as far as rival goes, go look on some other car forums, all you hear mainly is them talk **** about one specific car.

I don't care if you've been driving since you were two and drive F1 cars, if your just buying the car to drive fast on the streets and be a super leet street racer and post of your idiotic doings, this is not the forum for you.

you race Race Cars eh?

yyyyeah not the best thing to say on a forum. First off, i dont wanna sound like an old fart by saying something like "youre never half as good as you think you are, there's always some way to improve" but its true. It doesnt matter how long you drive, or what you drive, you can never be fully prepared. Now saying that "i know what im doing" is just being arrogant. Listen to the more experienced drivers on here... ive been driving for about 4 years myself, and can manuver a FWD like nobody's business, but i dont cuz 1) youll end up getting a ticket for it if not 2) hurting yourself and someone else by doing it and most importantly for the 240's 3)they are in very limited supply these days cuz of ricer punks who think they can do it all and wrap em around poles and trees and such. Now dont take it the wrong way though, you may be as skilled as you say, just dont be stupid about it. There's more at stake than pride.

Well now that we have that out of the way, i see a lot of ppl dissing the 240.. mustang ppl, camaro ppl, civic ppl... a lot of ppl talk trash about the 240, but a 240 could smoke a lot of them stock vs. stock... well maybe a well maintained 240. Just dont do it on the streets. we try to maintain a level of dignity on these forums.

Oh yeah, and welcome to the forums:thumb:

thanks, yah i never said anything like me getting the car just to speed around. someone likes to jump to conclusions....hmmm

and i know im not the best or anything like that, racing on a track is ALOT different than on the street. on track you dont even look back, just go. on street you have to be a defensive driver.

Not jumping to conclusions but when you come on here asking what the top speed of the cars are and what are rival cars it tends to make one think that the person is just looking to be "Super tyte streetracer"

a rival would be the honda prelude (although they are fairly different cars)

teg's are my 240's sworn enemy

preludes huh, lol. quite funny you say that, i wanted a prelude very badly until i started reading about the 240.

and s13, i see where your coming from. if i was you i probly would have thought the same way. but like i said. its all good.

go buy a civic kid

Fuck off and die... dont EVER tell someone to buy a civic unless they are a total riceboy

I don't see whats so wrong with Civics

civics are un original. They have way too many dress up parts. They have 90-something horsepower stock (older 90's models). FWD. Everyone and their grandmother owns a civic. Civics are not worth having around in my opinion. Mod an accord, they are so much more pizimp

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civics are good cars....good gas mileage, wont break down within 5000 miles, and easy to fix up.

also for the whole rivalry thing. I dont think it has to do anything with the cars. I think its the drivers that make them a "rivalry"

yah, thats what i meant by rivalry, of course it isnt the cars

btw, how much HP does a 91-93 240 have? stock.

around 120

That's to the wheels just so you know... They're rate at 155hp 160ft/lb

iono...reading around might help you alot...and uh...i personally think civics are great cars...plan on getting one down the road someday...but anyways...rivalry huh?...interesting concept...i always thought that anybody, even drivers of domestics, that have the same goal to become a better driver, wanting to learn more about the automobile in general, improve your car in any way, have this passion for driving/wrenching on your car...are freinds...one love *****

Yeah youth is a beautiful thing...........the car you wish to get is a decent all around car that is great to drive they are slow but can be made fast, good luck on the buy and just remember you got a lot of time take and think about what you want to do with it and the car you want to buy.......just a thought. I have had many cars that I was disappointed with but made them better. There are some sesitive people on this board I guess so just stick to what you like because that is all that matters..........

I guess most 240's are all original, hell theres probably only one 240 with FN01R-C wheels.

240's also don't have many dress up parts, even though there are hundreds of aero parts (some hideous, some nice), altezzas, and gobs a stuff for show.

240's also have a whopping 155 hp (DOHC rated at crank), most of which are over 10 years old and probably aren't putting out nearly that amount anymore, have seen a 89-90 240 not putting out much more than 90hp

240's aren't that rare anymore, everyone and thier grandma are either buying them or want them.

Last time I checked most of the flaws you were trying to point out for the Civic apply for the Honda Accord too.

Ignorant comments make you sound like a fanboy.

Also I am not bashing the 240sx, in fact I think they are awesome cars, I am just trying to show that so many people tend to bash on Civics for certain things that are present in the 240 community as well. Can't think on how to really word this because I'm tired but if I think about it later I'll edit this...

I agree with the above statement.

Plus, in general hondas last longer than 240s and depreciate slower. And they have a more successful open wheel racecar team. - so you cant just say something is slow b/c it's a honda.

i didnt say hondas were slow... i just hate civics... I think honda makes some of the most badass N/A engines around personally. They just put motors in their cars that are way too small to be worth trying to mod, hence the engine swaps

i wouldnt call the 2006 Si with 197HP, a 6 speed, and a LSD slow...just out of curiosity why do you hate civics?

got spanked by too many of 'em. oOOOoOOOOooo, that's right I said it!!! :D :D :D

It's not civics I hate. It's the 7/10 people that own them. Its the cut springs with the flashy, ridiculous rims, its the guys with enough money to put on a coffee can exhaust tip, but not enought money to fix that cheapo altezza hanging by a couple wires. Its the guys with unpainted body kits. The ones that want to race you if you so much as pass them up on the road. Its the guys that can somehow afford the lilly violet maaco paintjob, but are rolling on steelies. It's the plastic spinners with the ridiculous illegal window tint and chrome windsheild wipers.

And don't pretend you guys don't know what I'm talking about. half the civics I see are stock under the hood, but they have more aftermarket exterior parts that look like they were bought at toys r us than one can deal with.

With that thought out there. I think honda's are great cars with quality build. Just stop with the rice, its killing the worlds view of car enthusiasts.

yeah... pretty much the way i feel... but i hate the older civics... like pre-powerful civics. The ones that cant get out of their own way.. the ones that stop just a few feew shorter than a hummer. The newer ones, i can respect (cept for the fugly hatches). The newer ones have balls.

This is Igy's Honduh and since everyone is soooo off topic i will be too.. Truly a work of art hahaha piece of crap on the outside but will probably smoke every car on this site......hondas are ok just let this kid have his 240 hehe

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no matter the year, civics are just still fun a$$ car to beat the crap out of on a windy road. Not saying that it's as fast or as fun as other cars, but still fun. Kind of like that not that hot ex-girlfriend you always keep hookin' up with just to get some.

LMFAO... thats beautiful... i might quote that in my sig

Hey Kid, here's some thought:

You're a kid, sorry.. but you are. I'm only 23... but the fact of the matter is driving experience plays the biggest role in what you're going to do to your car. Drifting... Racing... these are things that inspire a lot of people to get into the 240, however... the majority end up w/o a car because they think they can drive. If you're going to get a car to mod up, I think you should take more time and effort into researching mechanics and performance. The more you know about engines, suspension etc... the more you're going to understand what car fits you more. As well, you won't be 23 looking up info on forums, cuz' you'll probably already know it :)

I think a 240 is a great first car, I think a Honda is a great first car, they're bot reliable, affordable, and mod'able cars. Regardless of what car you get, if you don't respect it and the road, you'll be shopping for car #2 very shortly.

If you decide to get a car for racing/drifting.. or speeding around, Remember the crucial components aren't the ones that make you go faster, they're the ones that keep YOU in controll while you're going fast. Tires... Brakes... Suspension... also keep in mind, 240sx's are basically a 'fixer upper' there are a lot of 240's out there, but most of the Buy'n'Drives are gone, so what's left is the ones that need work... from rust, electrical, horrible maintence... You're also going to need Registration, Insurance... Understand that you're still in HS, if you got a car now... learned how to work on it and understand the machine.... and neglect adding a bodykit now, some rims... do a motor swap, and a big stereo... When entering college, you'll have more money... more knowledge... and a car that's ready for the improvements.

My Advice, as if talking to myself at your age... would be buy a car that's just a car, your first car is rarely your favorite.. and if it is, you'll end up losing it one way or another. Use your first car as a tool... like I said, the mechanics... the maintenence... Put your money aside and when you graduate give yourself a present and invest in a great car.

The Reality of it is, you don't even know who you are... you've got a lot of changes ahead of you and these next few years are the biggest. Your opinions, your beliefs, your needs... are all going to change drastically. Don't get caught up in the hype of highschool... Everyone there is going to have these same changes. If you're smart, you can plan for the future, Sure.. the guy with the Civic gets the cheerleader now, but when You're driving on campus with an S-13 /SR20DET/S-15 Conversion and you did It all yourself. He's going to **** himself because his civic breaks down because he doesn't know how to maintain the car and all his money is in his duct taped body kit and the tickets he got from thinking he was the ****.

As for whoever said "I hate civics" then said "I don't hate civics just the 7/10 owners..." dude, seriously... the majority of honda owners don't change ANYTHING on their ride. Now, there are the ricers that change every possible APC offered modification... but that's true in ANY Car, Nissan, Honda, chevy.. c'mon get real.

You can't diss a quality machine because of the people who own them. "SCREW THE CORVETTE PIECE OF CRAP!" yeah right, it's a beautiful car... amazing engineering... simply because most the guys drive 30mph in a 45, doesn't mean the car sucks.... In a post where we're trying to teach a kid about being smart, respectful and careful of what he says. You kind of messed that up. Just an opinion...

i kinda agree with that.. but i feel that if you really enjoy your first car, youll be more inclined to take better care of it while youre still interested in learning about it... my 2 cars have been my 2 favorites so far... not that ive wrecked either of them... i just smoked the clutch in my legend... and i need to register my 240. The point is... learn the car, learn the maintenance, keep it up, and youll have agood car... unless you bought a GM.. then youre screwed... sorry i just think GM makes some ****ty cars... their trucks are the bomb diggity

And dont flame me about "oh their new cars are good" andall this b.s. cuz if hes just getting a car, it wont be anywhere close to new (or i hope not for his sake).

Rival cars eh? I guess you are trying to figure out what cars were put out by different manf. to compete with sales and such. Well here are a few...

Mazda MX-6
Ford Probe
Dodge Avenger
Mitsu Eclipse
Toyota Celica

These were just a few of the cars that Nissan was slated over taking over in their market class. Not all of them were in the same "class", but the desired effect is still there. To sway drivers to buy a 240 vs the others.

And FWIW, all of those forementioned cars can become very competitive with each manf. racing division.

What an asnine and biased thing to say. I don't care how far you go back, Chevrolet has had just as many nice cars as bad cars (this goes for every manf.). And for the part about the trucks, apparently you have never heard about the gas tank explosions with the 80's Chebby trucks.

The Vette, absolute american heritage when it comes to cars. Not ****ty. Colorado, peice of junk. Z71, overpriced peice of junk. Camaro, fast car; bad build quality. Cavilar, good car; bad build quality, but reliable. I could go on and on, with every car company but, I won't. Think b4 you speak.

i think, therefore GM is poorly built... sorry, but ive had a lot of bad experiences with build quality of american cars.. and before you catch on fire and start saying"well that's your experience not everyone else's, you may have had a lemon" I understand that, but that doesnt change the fact i, and most people i know, have had bad expericences with gm vehicles. Anything ranging form faulty waterpumps that became almost impossible to remove because the pump housing literally shattered. Things like that, and the ride quality in cars like the cavalier, corsica, caprice... all sucked a fat wang...other than that, just poor construction of chevy's in general... and interiors of early mitsubishis too... but they just used thin plastic...



This is also my opinion and limited experience with these cars. Just like everyone else, im entitled to my opinion. Im open to debates, but i dont wanna get into an e-argument and have both ppl look like retards. Cuz fighting online is like running in the special olympics; even if you win, youre still a retard. So lets not fight about it, but rather debate, that way we both come out with a better outlook on the situation

Opinions are like *******s, everyone has one and they all stink.

Here are my thoughts:

You come on to this board expressing your interests in a 240, a car that you obviously know nothing about. Instead of us giving you this information, you can freely look it up. Actually, I made a post with almost every single technical specification of the 240 (I got flamed for it), but it basically covers EVERYTHING. Go look that up and let me know how you feel afterwards.

No one cares if you've been driving since you were 13. I've been driving since I was 15, and I'm 21. I still don't have 100% control of my car, and I doubt that in your two years you "know what you're doing". Don't get a 240 to be in the bandwagon of what everyone else wants now. Get a 240 because it serves you a purpose(Getting you from point A to point B, perhaps). Good luck, buddy.

Ok first of all, that wasn't the same person that said both of those things. I said the second one. Secondly, If you think about it, it's probably different depending where you live. In a large part of town close to where I live, LITTERALLY about 6 civics out of every 10 you see on the road are just fagged out. I'm not trying to be racist or stereotypical or anything buts its mostly latinos. Third, of course many people rice out cars that arent honda's, but you cannot honestly tell me that the vast majority of riced out cars on the road ARE in fact, Honda Civics. C'mon get real.

Keep in mind, I have nothing against civics in themselves. I want everyone to know that straight up. I just can't stand to see one more civic with a ridiculous wing and chrome painted rims. That whole fad thing is just putting honda's to shame.

Okay, first off, i hope that wasnt directed toward me. Second, you posted a list of tech specs? Sweet, but why did you get flamed for THAT? I agree with the whole car control thing. just cuz youve been doing something for a million years doesnt mean you can do it perfect everytime, go watch the drift bible. Thirdly, for the record, i had my 240 since i was 14, and was WAY before "drift" was a common word. Okay so maybe it was only 4 years ago.. but still. I got it cuz i had always had a thing for the Z cars, and they reminded me of them and look oh so pimp. My 240 has sentimental value to me.



Anyways, isnt this supposed to be 240sx 101, or is it flame about civics, rice, and poor internet skills?