240sx vs m3
12-14-2006, 07:35 PM
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240sx vs m3
Anybody here ever raced an m3. I was wandering how much work it would take to beat an m3. Do you think a 240sx turbo making about 250 horsepower would be able to beat an e36 m3. How about a g35.
12-14-2006, 09:02 PM
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its a general question Relax, if you are goin to be a l337 *** then dont post a reply. I would say no, an m3 can do over 160mp/h so even a 250 hp 240 depending on engine specs probibly couldent keep up, if you put down 300 ish HP to the Wheels then yes. I love M3's if I had the euro car bug Id buy one.
12-14-2006, 09:50 PM
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Old M3= 333 crank horsepower
Good engine, so assume low drivetrain loss of ~15%
That's like 280 wheel or so, on a car that weighs 3415 curb weight
That's about 12.2 lbs/whp
Now take a 240 that weighs about 2750 curb weight...
divided by 12.2 lbs/whp is ~225 whp.....
Now obviously, we all know that a 225 whp 240 is NOT going to beat an M3, especially because of the low end torque,
However, I would wager that ~250 whp or so would do the trick
People with ~250 whp 240s run in the mid to low 13s, which is exactly what an M3 runs (roughly 13.3 or so)
Final Answer....I say if you make 250 at the wheels and can drive, you can keep up with an M3 prolly on the 1/4, probably not at higher speeds
Good engine, so assume low drivetrain loss of ~15%
That's like 280 wheel or so, on a car that weighs 3415 curb weight
That's about 12.2 lbs/whp
Now take a 240 that weighs about 2750 curb weight...
divided by 12.2 lbs/whp is ~225 whp.....
Now obviously, we all know that a 225 whp 240 is NOT going to beat an M3, especially because of the low end torque,
However, I would wager that ~250 whp or so would do the trick
People with ~250 whp 240s run in the mid to low 13s, which is exactly what an M3 runs (roughly 13.3 or so)
Final Answer....I say if you make 250 at the wheels and can drive, you can keep up with an M3 prolly on the 1/4, probably not at higher speeds
12-14-2006, 09:58 PM
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either way there are too many unnacounted variables. it's fair to say that they would both loose, because drag racing doesnt prove anything about the driver's ability to perform in other settings... like it would on a closed circuit.
12-15-2006, 01:32 PM
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I don't think the 240 stands a chance in the handling area, but the m3 doesn't have 330 crank horsepower the european version does but the american version doesn't even have 280 crank horse power, maybe 250 crank.
12-15-2006, 02:22 PM
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Ok, anyone that says the M3 doesn't have 333 crank horsepower has no clue what they are talking about.
Go to any website and check it out....it's obvious.
Also, with suspension mods, a 240 could easily outhandle an M3.
Are you kidding? "The american version has 280 crank" haha....
The new Nissan Maximas have like 270 crank, and weigh like maybe 400 lbs more than an M3....you are telling me they have similar power and run similar times? Surely you must be joking around
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Ok, anyone that says the M3 doesn't have 333 crank horsepower has no clue what they are talking about.
Go to any website and check it out....it's obvious.
Also, with suspension mods, a 240 could easily outhandle an M3.
Are you kidding? "The american version has 280 crank" haha....
The new Nissan Maximas have like 270 crank, and weigh like maybe 400 lbs more than an M3....you are telling me they have similar power and run similar times? Surely you must be joking around
12-15-2006, 03:35 PM
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1998 BMW E36 M3
Year 1998
Make BMW
Model E36 M3
Engine Location Front
Drive Type Rear Wheel
Body Material Steel unibody
Production Years for Series 1992 - 1999
Price $40,270.00
Weight 3180 lbs | 1442.4 kg
MPG City 20
MPG Highway 27
Introduced At 1992 Paris Auto Show
Engine
Engine Configuration I
Cylinders 6
Aspiration/Induction Normal
Displacement 3152.00 cc | 192.3 cu in. | 3.2 L.
Valves 24 valves.
4 valves per cylinder.
Valvetrain DOHC
Horsepower 240.00 BHP (176.6 KW) @ 6000.00 RPM
Torque 236.00 Ft-Lbs (320 NM) @ 3800.00 RPM
HP to Weight Ratio 13.3 LB / HP (Vehicles with similar ratio)
HP / Liter 75.0 BHP / Liter
Bore 3.39 in | 86.1 mm.
Stroke 3.38 in | 85.9 mm.
Compression Ratio 10.5:1
Fuel Feed Fuel injection
Block Cast-iron
Head Aluminum
Vehicles with similar horsepower and weight
Think again moron
Year 1998
Make BMW
Model E36 M3
Engine Location Front
Drive Type Rear Wheel
Body Material Steel unibody
Production Years for Series 1992 - 1999
Price $40,270.00
Weight 3180 lbs | 1442.4 kg
MPG City 20
MPG Highway 27
Introduced At 1992 Paris Auto Show
Engine
Engine Configuration I
Cylinders 6
Aspiration/Induction Normal
Displacement 3152.00 cc | 192.3 cu in. | 3.2 L.
Valves 24 valves.
4 valves per cylinder.
Valvetrain DOHC
Horsepower 240.00 BHP (176.6 KW) @ 6000.00 RPM
Torque 236.00 Ft-Lbs (320 NM) @ 3800.00 RPM
HP to Weight Ratio 13.3 LB / HP (Vehicles with similar ratio)
HP / Liter 75.0 BHP / Liter
Bore 3.39 in | 86.1 mm.
Stroke 3.38 in | 85.9 mm.
Compression Ratio 10.5:1
Fuel Feed Fuel injection
Block Cast-iron
Head Aluminum
Vehicles with similar horsepower and weight
Think again moron
12-18-2006, 01:18 PM
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i know its gonna sound like garbage. but i beat some smart *** who had a 5 speed 95 m3. he was pretty pissed when the fat kid out drove him. i dont think he knew what he was doing.