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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 11:28 PM
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Thumbs down jspec autosports

Few months ago we ordered an SR20 for my friends s13 240sx, he decided to buy from this Jspec autosport company (jspecauto.com) The engine was shipped promptly and we recieved it in a few days, picked it up at the trucking company and brought it home. I have never heard of this company in the past but he said he had done a little research so i didn't care too much.

the first thing i noticed a little odd was on the compression sheet they had written 190 even all the way across.. wtf? There was no MAF sensor like they said they were going to include, and the ignitor they sent was cracked open. Well whatever, **** happens and we'll get it sorted out later.. had bought a z32 maf anyways so it wasn't a huge deal, we were happy about the HKS bb turbo/nice o2 housing and a few other goodies on the engine...

we got the engine on the stand and since we were going to replace the HG anyways and install some ARP studs and a few other things before we put it in the car, i decided to pull off the oil pan and that's when the nightmare started. the oil pan was absolutely FULL of metal. major bearing failure and draining hte oil on the engine at all should have made this painfully obvious. I decided to look at the rod bearings. #1 completely shot, gone, a little bit of material stuck to the crank and the crank was totally ****ed.. all of the other rod bearings were on their way out and had severe wear (copper showing)... i then pulled the mains out which also were all showing copper.

At this point we're super frustrated and pretty pissed off.... obviously the engine is completely shot and would need a complete tear down and everything would need tanked and rebuilt including the turbo (i've already experienced what engine bearing failure does to your turbo in quick order)

So we call jspec, tell them all the info, send pics of everything we had done (including pictures of all the bearings, the oil pan, etc etc etc) we have been really thourough with our pictures. They tell us to take it to a certified mechanic to get it verified.. stupid in my opinion since it's pretty damn obvious what the problem is and i dont really want to load this thing up but whatever.. we take it to a local shop and they just verify what we already knew..

now get this, jspec asks for a COMPRESSION TEST!! wtf!? they want me to reassemble this busted *** engine with no rod bearing and **** and do a compression check? They said they needed it to see weather they should send a head with the block or not. HELLO, METAL WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE ENGINE AND IT IS TOTALLY ****ED!!! I DIDNT BUY AN ENGINE TO PULL APART AND TOTALLY REBUILD..


Forward to this week, they send a tracking number on a new engine, we pick it up tonight.. it looks complete in the wrap at the shipping company minus a valve cover and NO TURBO or exhaust manifold..... Already kinda pissed but whatever, we're tired of waiting and bring it home and get it into the garage

and this is what i find

1. still no MAF, no replacement ignitor
2. oil pan is totally CAVED IN
3. no compression test performed (as if they really did it on the other one)
4. head is FULL of gritty ****, cant tell if any of it is metallic yet
5. This isn't the same as the other sr20, what's left of the intake manifold is completely different, the injectors are mounted in a different place
6. water pump is frozen stuck and doesnt turn
7 crank pulley is cracked to ****
8. The head on this engine has some weird bolted on plate on the front that the other head didn't have, and it's broken open
9. every single pulley and bracket is bent or broken on the engine, it has obviously been dropped HARD or in a major front end collision
10. No cams.. the cams in the other car are scored from the lack of oil + metal running through the eninge, dont these people ****ing get it?
11. the little metal things that rest on top of the valve retainers, half of them are missing.
12. Here's where i stopped because i was pissed off... #4 plug is covered in oil


What kind of company is this? I haven't searched any forums or talked to anyone.. but this is a pretty ****ty way of taking care of customers. We would have gladly sent back the original ****box they mailed here for a complete running assembly (WHAT WAS PAID FOR) instead of two broke *** half *** piles of **** that we cant even combine parts to make a complete running engine. Where do these people get off not replacing EVERYTHING that oil flows through?

Has anyone else had any good or bad experiences with this company? Really at this point i'd rather just have them take their **** back and order it from a real company that's not into selling junk engines. I didn't want to post anything here but after getting a second junk engine I've stopped giving this company the benefit of the doubt
Old Sep 8, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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holy... man legal action needs to be taken against them... i say you take a couple screen shots of some of their web pages and call a lawyer. honestly they aren't going to do right. people in the past have proven this fact. no company wants to givyou your money back. take it to court and get everything you can get.

(BTW put this on every board you're on)
Old Sep 8, 2005 | 11:56 PM
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I'm not sure how it works but they are based out of canada, and i have posted this on a couple other forums already.

I dont want to see anyone else get ripped off.

The thing that really upsets me is that this company acts like it's our responsibility to pull apart the engines and replace parts on the new one rather than just them providing a completely assembled assembly ready to drop in (you know, the thing they advertise)
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 12:00 AM
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you didn't pay to have a headache so they SHOULD fix it but they won't unless you can take legal action.

anyone know the rules for sueing a company in canada?
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 12:28 AM
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yeah i'd really appriciate any advice or anyone to chime in who's seen a similar situation
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 06:25 AM
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I would find a lawyer too... seems like you've already documented everything.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 10:05 AM
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Old school vigalante mayhem anybody? Lol, just kidding, but seriously, why do people do this stuff? I know it's not a kind world but whatever happened to treat people how you'd like to be treated? Next time someone wants to buy something from them, send counterfeit money. Then maybe they'll get the picture.

Seriously though, go to court if they don't take care of you. Nobody should jack you off like that.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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figured out that this "new" engine is an s14 or s15.. well what's left of it, the part on the head that's busted is the "Vct cover" i guess you would call it.... and it has half of the s14-s15 intake manifold still on it..


I dont know what's interchangable anyways and what's not... obviously not acceptable when buying an engine swap.
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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that's total BS, you should really take legal action against them... take pictures of EVERYTHING on the engine, working and not working... take screenshots, files etc off the website that pertain to this.
I hope it works out, and thanks for the heads up on the company!
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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just for reference. here's one of the pics of the first engine..

remember they still wanted a COMPRESSION TEST after seeing this + a ton more pics, after the engine was almost completely disassembled for full diagnosis
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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holy sh*t......
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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That is f***ing ridiculous
Old Sep 10, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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No lawyer will really help you. The company that sold you the engine understands that the SR is illegal in the U.S. It's kinda like buying crack, accept you don't get the felony for swapping it into your car, well that is atleast until you get sent to a smog referee. Then you can get a felony charge for what is called falsifying USDM vins, which is an act of forging documents to the DMV stating that you have a USDM registered engine in your car.
You should of just gone through ATTARCO and payed a couple more bucks to deal with a reputable company that has been in the JDM business since 1985.
Old Sep 10, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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^^^ I don't think that is true. The only part of the SR that is illegal is using it on the road. You can buy a R34 from Japan and no legalize it because you aren't going to use it on the road. The same thing with the SR engine.
Old Sep 10, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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yea, he can justsay it was gonna be for track use, like all the sites and companies say



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