removing cruise control
11-20-2008, 08:15 PM
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LMAO! As soon as I read "autocross" I understood completely . .
In that case, removing your inner fender wells also removes weight and allows for cooling, just don't leave em off in the rain, a good puddle can and WILL hydrolock your engine if you pull enough water in.
Yeah, I honestly thought you were some kid trying to get "faster on the touge". I really hate those . . .but if you're a man of your word, you seem like you are, I believe you and I take your word for it. If you are indeed autocrossing, the only classes that do not allow the accessories to be removed are the stock classes. Outside of those you are good.
Is this for the SCCA, the NASA? I'm no longer a member of the SCCA but I'm still an NASA member. Which class do you plan on running? If you plan on doing STS or STX, then you're going to run into a LOT of scrutiny when you get into stuff like that. ESPECIALLY in the SCCA. Most are there for fun, but a lot are there for the win. If you win, they'll seem suspicious, especially when you win by a small margin. They're QUICK to scrutinize cars and will pull that card quickly. I'd hate to see you lose your car for 24 hours just because someone thinks you're cheating.
But yeah, start a thread in the Auto-X/Road Racing forums and we'll chat more about it there. Let us know what your plans are and how you plan on carrying them out, we have enough autocrossers, road racers and track drifters here to give you all of the help/suggestion you need.
-Dave
In that case, removing your inner fender wells also removes weight and allows for cooling, just don't leave em off in the rain, a good puddle can and WILL hydrolock your engine if you pull enough water in.
Yeah, I honestly thought you were some kid trying to get "faster on the touge". I really hate those . . .but if you're a man of your word, you seem like you are, I believe you and I take your word for it. If you are indeed autocrossing, the only classes that do not allow the accessories to be removed are the stock classes. Outside of those you are good.
Is this for the SCCA, the NASA? I'm no longer a member of the SCCA but I'm still an NASA member. Which class do you plan on running? If you plan on doing STS or STX, then you're going to run into a LOT of scrutiny when you get into stuff like that. ESPECIALLY in the SCCA. Most are there for fun, but a lot are there for the win. If you win, they'll seem suspicious, especially when you win by a small margin. They're QUICK to scrutinize cars and will pull that card quickly. I'd hate to see you lose your car for 24 hours just because someone thinks you're cheating.
But yeah, start a thread in the Auto-X/Road Racing forums and we'll chat more about it there. Let us know what your plans are and how you plan on carrying them out, we have enough autocrossers, road racers and track drifters here to give you all of the help/suggestion you need.
-Dave
anyways thats my little rant. and ill try to chat more in the autox threads as i am finally starting to get decent at it and am able to give some tips and advice after 2 years of autox'n.
11-20-2008, 08:59 PM
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11-20-2008, 11:39 PM
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i jus pulled my cruise control out a couple days ago, for one it dodnt work, 2 it was super easy to pull out, and 3 its makes the engine bay cleaner
i have an s14, and on that there was a vaccum pump mounted right below the diaphram that pulled the cable for the cruise, soo all i had ta do was take the cable off the throttle, take the diaphram off, pull the diaphram off the ONE vaccum line, the vaccum line jus goes from the pump to the diphram, then pull out the vaccum pump, otherwise theres no other plumbing or nething that needs to be done or blocked off
and mine was mounted on the inner fender so when i took it out there was open holes into the fender well so i plugged those
you probably already figured that all out by now, but o well, an sry for no pics
i have an s14, and on that there was a vaccum pump mounted right below the diaphram that pulled the cable for the cruise, soo all i had ta do was take the cable off the throttle, take the diaphram off, pull the diaphram off the ONE vaccum line, the vaccum line jus goes from the pump to the diphram, then pull out the vaccum pump, otherwise theres no other plumbing or nething that needs to be done or blocked off
and mine was mounted on the inner fender so when i took it out there was open holes into the fender well so i plugged those
you probably already figured that all out by now, but o well, an sry for no pics
11-21-2008, 04:46 AM
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i jus pulled my cruise control out a couple days ago, for one it dodnt work, 2 it was super easy to pull out, and 3 its makes the engine bay cleaner
i have an s14, and on that there was a vaccum pump mounted right below the diaphram that pulled the cable for the cruise, soo all i had ta do was take the cable off the throttle, take the diaphram off, pull the diaphram off the ONE vaccum line, the vaccum line jus goes from the pump to the diphram, then pull out the vaccum pump, otherwise theres no other plumbing or nething that needs to be done or blocked off
and mine was mounted on the inner fender so when i took it out there was open holes into the fender well so i plugged those
you probably already figured that all out by now, but o well, an sry for no pics
i have an s14, and on that there was a vaccum pump mounted right below the diaphram that pulled the cable for the cruise, soo all i had ta do was take the cable off the throttle, take the diaphram off, pull the diaphram off the ONE vaccum line, the vaccum line jus goes from the pump to the diphram, then pull out the vaccum pump, otherwise theres no other plumbing or nething that needs to be done or blocked off
and mine was mounted on the inner fender so when i took it out there was open holes into the fender well so i plugged those
you probably already figured that all out by now, but o well, an sry for no pics
did you happen to weigh the parts you took out? and ya cleaning up the look off the engine bay would be a bonus too.anyway the site is a z 2 4 0 s x . o r g , and ya that is weird that this forum wont let you type the names of other forums (no naughty words
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11-23-2008, 05:45 AM
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hey i also wanted to ask, anyone living in a hot state/city (like me in phoenix) removed the a/c? i was just wondering if i should with the 115 degree summers here. but the 2-3 hp gain and 25lb loss is really temping me. keep in mind this is not my daily driver, so any opinions? maybe ill start a poll....
11-23-2008, 06:25 AM
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it was never about hp to me... i just wanted it gone.. **** was broken... and it cluttered the engine bay. also I wanted space to run my fans with my Intercooler. that is all lol..
12-14-2008, 07:40 PM
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if its not ur DD, is it a dedicated track car? or do u still drive it often on the streets? if its not ur DD and ur willing to put up with jus having windows all open on hot days then id say go for it, that an without the condensor urll get a lil more airflow to the radiator
i live in wisconsin, so most of the time its coldish here, but in the summer it gets really humid an my honda prelude i had before my zenki i removed the A/C an it didnt really bother me much at all, the GF hated it, but i didnt care
o, and no i didnt weigh the cruise control parts but they were very light, if i had to guess id say maybe a pound or 2
i live in wisconsin, so most of the time its coldish here, but in the summer it gets really humid an my honda prelude i had before my zenki i removed the A/C an it didnt really bother me much at all, the GF hated it, but i didnt care
o, and no i didnt weigh the cruise control parts but they were very light, if i had to guess id say maybe a pound or 2
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12-15-2008, 04:43 AM
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if its not ur DD, is it a dedicated track car? or do u still drive it often on the streets? if its not ur DD and ur willing to put up with jus having windows all open on hot days then id say go for it, that an without the condensor urll get a lil more airflow to the radiator
i live in wisconsin, so most of the time its coldish here, but in the summer it gets really humid an my honda prelude i had before my zenki i removed the A/C an it didnt really bother me much at all, the GF hated it, but i didnt care
o, and no i didnt weigh the cruise control parts but they were very light, if i had to guess id say maybe a pound or 2
i live in wisconsin, so most of the time its coldish here, but in the summer it gets really humid an my honda prelude i had before my zenki i removed the A/C an it didnt really bother me much at all, the GF hated it, but i didnt care
o, and no i didnt weigh the cruise control parts but they were very light, if i had to guess id say maybe a pound or 2
12-15-2008, 09:33 AM
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1) do you ever plan to sell the car?
2) do you like to sweat your butt off
3) it's an s14 not an s13.... don't do it
4) if you're not professionally competing in autox,
-no reason to do this
-it doesn't matter what class you're in
2) do you like to sweat your butt off
3) it's an s14 not an s13.... don't do it
4) if you're not professionally competing in autox,
-no reason to do this
-it doesn't matter what class you're in
12-15-2008, 09:34 AM
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12-15-2008, 03:03 PM
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in case i didn't say this before i have decided i have decided to not remove the A/C, and i never wanted to remove the power steering, as yes it does make motorsports a whole lot easier. however jury is still out on the cruise control.