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Old 05-23-2010, 04:54 PM
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a few months ago i finished up my n/a project i was workin on with je 11.0.1 pistons,eagle rods,xcessive intake mani,n60 maf,shaft masters aluminum drive shaft(free shippin i might add so check'em out),3 angle valve job(stock valves,lightly ported exhaust side of head,obx headers and catback,jus installed 264x2 brain crower cams,and polished n rebalanced crank..a retuned stock ecu from EFI Specialist lightly tune.. and put out 181 whp(dyno sheet is on zilvia will be postin here soon)...20hp shy of 200whp..curious of what u guys think i can do or add on so i can break this unbreakle mark..have'nt broken the 2000 dollars on engine n machine parts yet.so let me kno what you guys think,tips n tricks i can do
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Old 05-27-2010, 03:29 PM
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181whp? What kind of dyno? And I'd love to the the Sheet, I wanna see what the Power curves look like.
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nice i like the bolt ons!! spend the money where it was needed and the skimped out where ness.... as far as pushing it further?? i say different or better header DC?, light weight wheels to compensate the driveshaft, "good clutch" - get power to the ground, short ram intake, free coolant bypass, thermo intake mani gasket, hi flow cat, better tune? , very high octane fuel, better valve springs / retainers to compensate the cams, more porting on the intake side of head , adj timing,
thats all i got for now man now some of this u might have but i was just picking my brain on more stuff u could use for your setup i hope this helps...
ps please post up dyno and pics of your ride!!
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He's got the Short Ram, I doubt he's got the TB Coolant considering he's using the Xcessive IM, Why use a CAT if he's looking for the most power.
Also I dont think a DC Header would be muhc of an upgrade if anything, everything about it is smaller and we all know the KA LOVES to breathe.

Header specs I've been able to gather so far:

Pacesetter Header
1.500" Primaries
2.500" Collector
4-1

OBX Header
1.125" Primaries
2.500" Collector
4-2-1

DC Sports Header
?.???" Primaries
1.875" Collector
4-2-1

If anything I'd rec. the PaceSetter:

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Run 2 = Stock KA w/ 88k Miles
Run 7 = Blitz Realivze TT 80mm Exhaust (Downsizes to ~2.5" in Muffler)
Run 14 = Blitz TT + PaceSetter 4-1 Header
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yeah, because we all know just how much power you lose by running a cat.
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Old 05-28-2010, 11:34 PM
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well i got mb battle wheel which r pretty danm light for 17 uum...im usin obx headers,now what is the tb coolant condenser?any pics of itt so i kno what im lookin for??the thermo intake mani gasket comes with the xcessive intake mani..valve springs / retainers i do need 2 get though..i was thinkin i might get bigger valves but the stock ones r already a nice size on the ka..do anyone know if the 95-98 kade head has bigger valves or not?some where i remember reading that 95-98 head flowed better,can any one conform this?
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Old 05-28-2010, 11:44 PM
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high flow cats dont really hurt your performance as bad as people portray they do..getting the head ported is a no no for now cuz i dont have the money for it yet maybe when i go back 2 skool i might do it...93 octane is all i can afford for now,that and octane boost lol..pace header are that big they look pretty skinny.the megan header looks like *** pardon my french lol..i thought dc was the ish when it came to headers?you dont want headers thats too big no back pressure plus,im not boostin so n/a u need some back pressure.its doesnt help that i have a 3" all the way through cat back


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i would have gone with ITB's instead of that manifold.

NA SR's make good power i done see why a KA cant. and im not talking about VVL im talking about regular old rwd NA SR's they can get into the 200+ whp easy.

hell i got a buddy with a sentra with a Built NA VVL SR making 364whp
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Old 05-29-2010, 05:49 PM
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my thoughts exactly..even honda's with smaller displacement makes over 200 with minor build up so when these guys be on these forums talkin that bs that the kade cant make over 200 it kills me
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Originally Posted by sav180 View Post
factory cats dont really hurt your performance as bad as people portray they do..
couldn't have said it better myself. also, would you say the manifold was really worth it? i ask because i'm not sure it is and that's why i haven't bought one.

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i personally want to get off boost and go NA again but not with a 4 banger im planing on building a LS2
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Originally Posted by jramosthe1st! View Post
yeah, because we all know just how much power you lose by running a cat.
Lol, your right we don't at most maybe 1whp if that but why spend the money on a $180 3" CAT when a 3" Test-Pipe is only $30?
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well i got mb battle wheel which r pretty danm light for 17 uum...im usin obx headers,now what is the tb coolant condenser?any pics of itt so i kno what im lookin for??the thermo intake mani gasket comes with the xcessive intake mani..valve springs / retainers i do need 2 get though..i was thinkin i might get bigger valves but the stock ones r already a nice size on the ka..do anyone know if the 95-98 kade head has bigger valves or not?some where i remember reading that 95-98 head flowed better,can any one conform this?
S14 Valves are the same and the heads flow the same. The numbers I believe you are referring to were the numbers posted in a NICO thread correct? In that one they compared a KA24E and S14 DE Head IIRC.
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Old 05-30-2010, 09:13 AM
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(s14 heads)i thought it was on here but i guess i was wrong...you will definitly notice a big change in accel,power difference and how much more air it pulls in.before i installed the 264 cams i have i noticed a huge change in how it ran with the stock cams and on stock cams i set the valve lash a lil tighter that help t0
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