The new GT-R
02-17-2008, 01:01 AM
#17
dude it has nothing to do with fanboys totally..
i said fanboy because people are just shouting the car out just because they think they know what its about... with my driving style i rely on skill more than power so i could careless dude...
end rant lol
ps
you relize for a caliber car like that.. you will only be able to test drive if you have intent to buy it
your not jermy clark.. you didn't drive it along with tons of other super cars... what facts do you have to back your reason....
and then stig enters.
i said fanboy because people are just shouting the car out just because they think they know what its about... with my driving style i rely on skill more than power so i could careless dude...
end rant lol
ps
you relize for a caliber car like that.. you will only be able to test drive if you have intent to buy it
your not jermy clark.. you didn't drive it along with tons of other super cars... what facts do you have to back your reason....
and then stig enters.
02-17-2008, 01:54 AM
#18
nuff said
no but really read the review Jeremy gave it
http://www.topgear.com/content/featu...ries/07/1.html
02-17-2008, 08:44 AM
#20
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the red really suits the car. and about test drives, wud they be that hard to get? a couple months ago here in south florida, people cud test drve the IS-F. and yesterday 25 E92 M3's were being test driven at braman BMW. I remember hearing that Nissan wud have a 911 on hand to compare some time.
02-17-2008, 10:20 AM
#21
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On paper and in the seat, I guess the car is pretty decent, in hindsight however, I can see that, being a Nissan, there are a lot of things that are just waiting to fail out.
I don't like this car for the same reason I don't like the Evo VIII and IX, too many gadgets and too many "aids" getting in the way of a driver's true skill. Personally, I think that if a person doesn't know how to properly brake going into a turn, they deserve to crash if they overcook. I don't believe that someone who is a complete basketcase with driving skill should be able to complete a turn because the car is smarter than the driver. That's what's wrong with racing today, instead of depending on driver skill, we're depending on the skill of the engineer in the lab coat.
That said, the GT-R is a great car and will personally prove that Nissan has what it takes to compete with exotics. Having said THAT, this still is a Nissan and thus will probably have the build quality of an Inifini at best speaking in a manner of interior and Nissan's reputation for outward finish will probably shine through here as well.
Is it at the top of my list of cars to buy, no. Is it ON my list of cars to buy . . .yes. Can I afford one . . .probably, but I wouldn't be able to afford much else. But I guess when you have a car that's smarter than most super computers, you don't really need much else.
Wow, I can really go on for days as to why this car is going to be the crutch of the racing world, but I won't! It's no secret that I'm a fan of driver skill vs. tuner credit, but I guess there has to be a balance somewhere. This car doesn't meet that balance, however, perhaps once Nissan starts realizing that electronics in vehicles are prone to pre-mature failure, they'll start moving away from the Mercedes route. Per Reuters, the average expectancy of a Mercedes made after 2000 is 3 years before a major repair is required to the electrical or suspension system. Nissan has been doing pretty decent with cars as of late, lets hope that the gadgetry of the R35 doesn't bring any discredit.
As I tell Lincoln and Mercury fans, "Highest in Initial Quality is just that . . .Initial!" This car will be great, but how long will that greatness last and will you feel you've gotten your money's worth if it has to go in for service twice a year.
-Stig
I don't like this car for the same reason I don't like the Evo VIII and IX, too many gadgets and too many "aids" getting in the way of a driver's true skill. Personally, I think that if a person doesn't know how to properly brake going into a turn, they deserve to crash if they overcook. I don't believe that someone who is a complete basketcase with driving skill should be able to complete a turn because the car is smarter than the driver. That's what's wrong with racing today, instead of depending on driver skill, we're depending on the skill of the engineer in the lab coat.
That said, the GT-R is a great car and will personally prove that Nissan has what it takes to compete with exotics. Having said THAT, this still is a Nissan and thus will probably have the build quality of an Inifini at best speaking in a manner of interior and Nissan's reputation for outward finish will probably shine through here as well.
Is it at the top of my list of cars to buy, no. Is it ON my list of cars to buy . . .yes. Can I afford one . . .probably, but I wouldn't be able to afford much else. But I guess when you have a car that's smarter than most super computers, you don't really need much else.
Wow, I can really go on for days as to why this car is going to be the crutch of the racing world, but I won't! It's no secret that I'm a fan of driver skill vs. tuner credit, but I guess there has to be a balance somewhere. This car doesn't meet that balance, however, perhaps once Nissan starts realizing that electronics in vehicles are prone to pre-mature failure, they'll start moving away from the Mercedes route. Per Reuters, the average expectancy of a Mercedes made after 2000 is 3 years before a major repair is required to the electrical or suspension system. Nissan has been doing pretty decent with cars as of late, lets hope that the gadgetry of the R35 doesn't bring any discredit.
As I tell Lincoln and Mercury fans, "Highest in Initial Quality is just that . . .Initial!" This car will be great, but how long will that greatness last and will you feel you've gotten your money's worth if it has to go in for service twice a year.
-Stig
02-17-2008, 11:39 AM
#22
nissan so far has made good electronics i had a 80 somthing Datsun 300zx come to my shop the other day it was fully loaded from factory and every thing still worked and i mean everything.
it had stuff u wouldnt expect to see in a 1980s car digital boost gauge in cluster, electric seats, digital G-force meter, electronic suspension and yes it was all stock from factory and it all worked i was very impressed
it had stuff u wouldnt expect to see in a 1980s car digital boost gauge in cluster, electric seats, digital G-force meter, electronic suspension and yes it was all stock from factory and it all worked i was very impressed
02-17-2008, 05:55 PM
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Any way this is what most will look like http://www.nagtroc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=20983
02-17-2008, 08:24 PM
#28
bro please tell me you are joking........ people please don't neglect driver skill....
wtf. lol.... now age makes a car bad.... there is this thing called modification and restoration .. but i forget many people dont race cars...... they simply throw mods at it and say what it could do....
ps
in my street/road racing days.. i killed early evos and wrx on back roads... whats that saying... my 89 s13 is not better pound for pound but im better ..... that is all
and trust me.. when i get my gts-t ill have video of me getting better times on a course then a NEW evo... hahaha... and the average evo owner *****es about not being able to mod because the payments and insurance swamps them...
ahhh im done here.... nothing against you Bumnah... but thats just not a good justification with age.. new is Not better.
wtf. lol.... now age makes a car bad.... there is this thing called modification and restoration .. but i forget many people dont race cars...... they simply throw mods at it and say what it could do....
ps
in my street/road racing days.. i killed early evos and wrx on back roads... whats that saying... my 89 s13 is not better pound for pound but im better ..... that is all
and trust me.. when i get my gts-t ill have video of me getting better times on a course then a NEW evo... hahaha... and the average evo owner *****es about not being able to mod because the payments and insurance swamps them...
ahhh im done here.... nothing against you Bumnah... but thats just not a good justification with age.. new is Not better.
02-17-2008, 09:58 PM
#29
bro please tell me you are joking........ people please don't neglect driver skill....
wtf. lol.... now age makes a car bad.... there is this thing called modification and restoration .. but i forget many people dont race cars...... they simply throw mods at it and say what it could do....
ps
in my street/road racing days.. i killed early evos and wrx on back roads... whats that saying... my 89 s13 is not better pound for pound but im better ..... that is all
and trust me.. when i get my gts-t ill have video of me getting better times on a course then a NEW evo... hahaha... and the average evo owner *****es about not being able to mod because the payments and insurance swamps them...
ahhh im done here.... nothing against you Bumnah... but thats just not a good justification with age.. new is Not better.
wtf. lol.... now age makes a car bad.... there is this thing called modification and restoration .. but i forget many people dont race cars...... they simply throw mods at it and say what it could do....
ps
in my street/road racing days.. i killed early evos and wrx on back roads... whats that saying... my 89 s13 is not better pound for pound but im better ..... that is all
and trust me.. when i get my gts-t ill have video of me getting better times on a course then a NEW evo... hahaha... and the average evo owner *****es about not being able to mod because the payments and insurance swamps them...
ahhh im done here.... nothing against you Bumnah... but thats just not a good justification with age.. new is Not better.