A complete lock down would have been smarter then only locking down one or two buildings. Like I said, in Phoenix.. they will lock everything down in a two mile radius. They should have locked the whole campus down. You don't want a crazy man running into dorms and classrooms freely.

You never just say "oh, it was only a domestic dispute".. when in reality, that wasn't the case.

We do carry unconcealed guns around in Phoenix, which is ridiculous because there is a shooting almost every single day. Guns are not necessary to carry around wherever and whenever you please. Fighting guns with guns does not solve any problems.

That's just how I view things from my shoes. I'm not "packing".. lol

 

I'm going to have to disagree when some of you say that everyone should carry guns around. It is true that we all have the right to bear arms, although there are a lot of people out there who would probably resort to using their weapon in a case of extreme rage or if they are carried by the heat of the moment.

Think about: bar fights, random encounters on the street, small disputes--there are actually people out there who wouldn't hesitate to threaten someone with a firearm if they had one. From there, one thing leads to another, and next thing you know it, a shoot out.

I believe guns should be limited to law enforcement and any individuals who own firearms to turn them in, or be held liable by law.

Now idealistically; that would be great. We wouldn't have to worry so much about a shooter coming around randomly, because it would be that much harder to aquire a weapon.

Realistically? Definitely not going to happen. It's sad that things have to come to this because laws in America are so relaxed on obtaining weaponry, yet severe when it comes to traffic and other minor things.

 

If guns became illegal, it would NOT be hard to get one. Cocaine is illegal but I could have some cocaine 5 minutes from now if I wanted to. Trust me, if guns became illegal it would not be hard at all to get one.

I'm not saying that everybody should be REQUIRED to carry a gun, but if people who have bad tempers wanted to pack heat they would already be doing so. I'm talking about level headed everyday people. And, if more people carried guns, the people with bad tempers would check themselves when they realize they will be shot if they pull their piece.

Coming out of work one day, my dad was almost carjacked. The carjackers put a gun in his window and told him to follow them. My dad's manager saw the whole thing happen and got out of his car and cocked his piece. The carjackers ran off. More people than just the police need to carry guns to keep the criminals in check.

 

"More people than just the police need to carry guns to keep the criminals in check."


that's right. and to all that are saying that more guns will only case more problems, put it this way. if you wanted to break into someone house. but you knew that that person had a gun would you risk getting shot or look for another house to rob?

also if people are going crazy shooting everyone in sight i at least want to be able to defend myself and everyone around me. taking the guns away from the law abiding citizens is not the solution.

 

Another thing that really grinds my gears is how the newspapers and media are all like "what do we have to change so this never happens again?!" The answer is NOTHING. You forget about it and get on with your life. How many colleges are there in the United States? Thousands, if not tens of thousands. And this happened at ONE of them. Randomly. After Columbine, do you remember how schools all over the place had metal detectors and security crews? How many of those detectors and security crews are still there? Not many. There was a news story in Chicago last week about a school that HAD metal detectors but a kid got a gun into the school anyways. There will ALWAYS be people like that out there that will kill people, its a fact of life, but let's keep it in perspective here. 34 people are dead, and while that is a tragedy, there are still 300,000,000 of us left to carry on. If you outlaw guns, whats next? Kitchen knives? Razors? Hammers? It will do no good to outlaw any of these things. There will always be somebody out there who wants to kill people, and they will do it regardless to whether or not they can get their hands on a gun. Somebody could run a group of people down with their car to kill them. Do we ban cars then?

 

yea i have ranted on other forums about the same thing. its annoying.


now the media seems to be thinking that Koera has something to do with it....

we dont need a war with those guys...... turst me

 

This discussion is starting to get very political. Lets keep it on track with what happened with Virginia Tech and forget about the guns discussion.

Horrible, horrible situation. I heard that as they were pulling bodies out of the classrooms, all they could hear were the student's cellphones ringing non-stop. It's very sad. Have they established a motive yet on the gunman? Anything?

 

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i heard it was cus his girl left him or something to that affect

 

Yeah, the whole time he was shooting he was yelling "wheres my girlfriend?!"

 

this is a horrible tragedy, but i think the death count was entirely too high. if a kid comes into a room i am in, and starts shooting people, and points a gun at me, i know i am going to die, so i would try to do everything i could to stop it. if that means attacking the offender, or running in zig-zags away from him, there is some method to preventing such a high death count. i think schools(both high schools and colleges) should have a little bit of training on what to do in the event of a shooting. this would get kids aware of how to react in the event of one happening, instead of just freezing up.

 

Gun vs. No Gun = no contest. Theres nothing that could have been done in my opinion. Running in zig zags at point blank probably wouldnt help either.

 

i know it was mentioned that we should drop the argument about guns but the fact of the matter is if a law abiding citizen had a concealed weapon at the first shooting things would have been much different.

everyone that can legally own a fire arm of some sort should have one. there that's my closing statement.

 

That's fine, everyone has a right to bear arms. As far as the gunman...what an idiot. If it's over his girlfriend, why didn't he just go after her and not go on a shooting rampage?

I was reading that he was really depressive and on some kind of medication...

...what exactly did his girlfriend do to make him do this?