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Old 11-17-2002, 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by I'm with Stupid
I dunno about you. but that'd be completely useless to me.
9000 in first gear is like 45mph
i like the sound of that.
and getting to tennesse faster
also out running an occasional police helicopter
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Originally posted by rudeboy

also out running an occasional police helicopter


alot more people escape the cops than they show on caps.
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Old 11-17-2002, 08:48 PM
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no, they actually came with stock lift, and he had them reground to have even less.
What was the point of that? You lose a lot of hp like that
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Old 11-17-2002, 09:23 PM
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not when you're going 8500 rpm.
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Old 11-17-2002, 09:24 PM
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Yeah even @ 8500 rpm.
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Old 11-17-2002, 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by Sinfestboy


alot more people escape the cops than they show on caps.
i realize that but on those long stretch's i'd like to be sure
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Old 11-18-2002, 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by I'm with Stupid
Yeah even @ 8500 rpm.
lets see, you can go 8000 rpm and be PUSHING it on regular cams, or you gan go 8500 on slightly shorter cams and make more power.

remember, hp = Tq x RPM / 5252, and if I gain 500 rpm, and lose as much as 100 tq, know what, IM HAPPY WITH IT. and you dont lose HP, you loose tq

Now stop complaining about what I am gonna do and focus on what you are. now leave me alone
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Originally posted by Sinfestboy
lets see, you can go 8000 rpm and be PUSHING it on regular cams, or you gan go 8500 on slightly shorter cams and make more power.

remember, hp = Tq x RPM / 5252, and if I gain 500 rpm, and lose as much as 100 tq, know what, IM HAPPY WITH IT. and you dont lose HP, you loose tq

Now stop complaining about what I am gonna do and focus on what you are. now leave me alone
you're gonna loose 100 foot pounds for 500rpm? WHY would you do that?
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Old 11-19-2002, 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by Sinfestboy
hp = Tq x RPM / 5252, and if I gain 500 rpm, and lose as much as 100 tq, know what, IM HAPPY WITH IT. and you dont lose HP, you loose tq
So if you lose torque you lose hp too. I hope you do have have sitting around reving your brains out while ricey hondas fly by.
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if you loose tq you lose hp too. but when you gain rpm, you gain hp. so if you gain a significant amount rpm while loosing only a couple tq, then you gain hp across a large span.

now, Like I said, I know what Im doing, and if you want to help, awesome, if you dont, its ok, leave me alone.


NOW! a big question.....
I know about the sr20ve... Is there any way to put the VVT onto a regular sr20det? probably an S14 sr. also, are there SR20vet's? how much more do they cost than regular det's?
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Originally posted by Sinfestboy
if you loose tq you lose hp too. but when you gain rpm, you gain hp. so if you gain a significant amount rpm while loosing only a couple tq, then you gain hp across a large span.
The amount of torque you will lose by using lower lift will LOWER HP ACROSS THE RPM RANGE. Only gaining 500 rpm is useless when you lose hp in your entire power band.

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now, Like I said, I know what Im doing, and if you want to help, awesome, if you dont, its ok, leave me alone.
I'm trying to help you by saying you'll be losing power and probably ruin your engine with high rpms.

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NOW! a big question.....
I know about the sr20ve... Is there any way to put the VVT onto a regular sr20det? probably an S14 sr. also, are there SR20vet's? how much more do they cost than regular det's?
To answer this the FWD SR20VE(T) has a differently designed head than the RWD SR20DE(T). It's been made to work, but it takes a lot of machine work. And there is the SR20VET in the X-trail.
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dude, 100 torque is a lot to give up for 500 rpms.
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Originally posted by spitz7985
dude, 100 torque is a lot to give up for 500 rpms.
those were 2 numbers I picked out of my butt. I KNOW I wouldnt lose 100 tq, probably closer to 20.

ok, here is my plan, its not set in stone, its not even set in a puddle of water.

The whole root of the plan is in 2 guys I know that live in okinawa. They can go to a junk yard and get whatever engine parts I will need that are out of the ordinary.

If I get get a VET straight up for under what it costs for my other goofy options, then I'll do that.

IF the only thing special about the VET is the head and computer, then I can get the head from my guys in japan, and start off right away with an ecu (TEC-II probably). plop that on a regular S13 sr, if possible sans the head and computer, to save a little money.

If there are other parts, I will pay them to assemble the whole engine for me, possibly with aftermarket rods and pistons (Jun/Toda).

the whole reasoning behind this waste of time, energy and money would be to have overly big cams down low, and around 6000 rpm (approx) have them switch over to some very small, high rpm cams. this way, I can have all the high rpm fun I want, and keep some low rpm power.
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waita****insecond!

according to heavythrottle there is already a VVT system on the S14 sr.... would someone like to elaborate as to why that isnt a sr20vet?
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S14 = Variable Timing Control
SR20VE = VTC + lift
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