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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 07:48 AM
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Right on. I can appreciate everyone's feelings towards APC. What's funny is when we go to shows and talk to people we never get the "rice" feedback. Maybe because we only get people looking for APC products in our booth, but it always seems to be only positive face to face versus online. That is why I always get fired up about it. Buy like I said you cannot work at APC without taking it with a grain of rice (haha). I understand what you mean by giving Gude props and they will get there props along with all the other companies helping out. As for the engine mods that APC is doing, I can't really talk about what APC will be doing on this car, but we will have some performance stuff on there. As for the Drift bandwagon I can fully appreicate what you are feeling. We have been working with Team Orange since early 2002 to put a deal together and it seems like every magazine is now hyping Drift so it may look like we are jumping on the bandwagon, but we have been trying to put together a Drift program for almost a year.

The only point I was trying to make was I check out these boards because I am an enthusiast and there are more like me that work here. I saw the posts and wanted to give you guys a heads up.

As for the Drift Works line of products. I cannot really say too much until after SEMA when we launch the full line of products. You are right in our new ad there are a bunch of FWD parts, but those will fall under the ReWorks line of products. One of the reasons we hired Team Orange was to show people that we are serious about this and are not going to go out drifting with a bunch of FWD Hondas. We plan on working VERY closely with Team Orange to create some truly unique performance parts. If we can take the buying power of a huge company like APC and bring people JDM and Drift Works products and reasonable prices then I think it will be a win win for everyone!

As for what I do at APC, no I am not in the mailroom. I am the Director of OEM operations. I work with OEM's like: Ford, GM, Saturn, Mazda, Toyota, DailmerChrysler, Hyundai and others to create parts and accessories for special edition vehicles. I am sure many people do not relize that this division of APC even exsists, but APC does and will contiune to make quality parts. Yes, this is a very different part of the business from our Pep, Autozone, Kragen side, but it is a side that does not have much glory since it is usually under a Private lable program.

Also, I will be at the NOPI show this weekend and would love to talk to any of you that are there....also, you may want to keep an eye out for Team Orange this weekend.

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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 08:44 AM
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well i hope it works out for the best, if apc shows it can produce quality parts it would be very interesting, they are a large company and to see it grabing a piece of drifting is good. i just hope it is not flooded with something that defeats the purpose of the sport and other sports like it. if apc really does work with team orange (drift extreme) i hope that this is will maintain the quality and on track the products should be, i would hate to see a kid driftin with some cheap "apc" sleeve coilovers and them break and soemthing bad happen. this is just an example of course im just sayin that when u getin into something like this i hope apc steps it up a beat thats all. of course i know they are already thinkin about this and know what they are doin. hope to see some nice products soon....
Old Sep 15, 2003 | 09:24 AM
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Im a little worried about this still. Put out a good product and get rid of the rice, we will see. I will not be at the NOPI show so I wont be able to see this. Like Luis said, I dont want to see fake coilovers either makin people bottom out and do all kinds of other stuff.

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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by superjoe29 Right on. I can appreciate everyone's feelings towards APC. What's funny is when we go to shows and talk to people we never get the "rice" feedback. Maybe because we only get people looking for APC products in our booth, but it always seems to be only positive face to face versus online. That is why I always get fired up about it. Buy like I said you cannot work at APC without taking it with a grain of rice (haha). I understand what you mean by giving Gude props and they will get there props along with all the other companies helping out. As for the engine mods that APC is doing, I can't really talk about what APC will be doing on this car, but we will have some performance stuff on there. As for the Drift bandwagon I can fully appreicate what you are feeling. We have been working with Team Orange since early 2002 to put a deal together and it seems like every magazine is now hyping Drift so it may look like we are jumping on the bandwagon, but we have been trying to put together a Drift program for almost a year.
From the beginning I thought and still think that this will be good. I would hope that the company you work for does not think of drift as a "half time show". I would like to see them work with Amateur drifters as well as the Pros.It is good to see a company take a team and work with them.
Originally posted by superjoe29 The only point I was trying to make was I check out these boards because I am an enthusiast and there are more like me that work here. I saw the posts and wanted to give you guys a heads up.
Thanks for the heads up. It is nice to have a direct line to companies as large as yours. It seems that most are ran by a guy behind a green curtain like the Wizard of OZ.
Originally posted by superjoe29 As for the Drift Works line of products. I cannot really say too much until after SEMA when we launch the full line of products. You are right in our new ad there are a bunch of FWD parts, but those will fall under the ReWorks line of products. One of the reasons we hired Team Orange was to show people that we are serious about this and are not going to go out drifting with a bunch of FWD Hondas. We plan on working VERY closely with Team Orange to create some truly unique performance parts. If we can take the buying power of a huge company like APC and bring people JDM and Drift Works products and reasonable prices then I think it will be a win win for everyone!
I think so as well. I would guess that you will bring like products to a shell that is 10 or more years old or are you going to concentrate on the newer RWD cars? I know there is a market for 240s and it might seem large to us but on a scale of new car owners we are small.
Originally posted by superjoe29 As for what I do at APC, no I am not in the mailroom.
I am glad to hear that you are the Director of OEM operations. The reason I question you is because anyone can sign onto this site and say they are the owner of APC. I checked your user information and I still question your standing. I will take you for your word and hope that what I post will fill in for some that are too shy to ask.
Originally posted by superjoe29 I am the Director of OEM operations. I work with OEM's like: Ford, GM, Saturn, Mazda, Toyota, DailmerChrysler, Hyundai and others to create parts and accessories for special edition vehicles. I am sure many people do not relize that this division of APC even exsists, but APC does and will contiune to make quality parts. Yes, this is a very different part of the business from our Pep, Autozone, Kragen side, but it is a side that does not have much glory since it is usually under a Private lable program.
This is still a sore site for me and I would think for other owners of 240s and older model cars. You are working with special edition new cars. We do not fall into that category. Nor do I think you would put in the time and money to come up quality parts for the “racer” or “drifter” when you have purchased a team that is already proven and properly equipped.It comes down to dollars and sense. I would like to know if it makes fiscal sense for a company like APC to come up with performance parts for:

1. An engine that is not sold in the USA in its RWD turbo form.
2. A car that is no longer in production.
3. An engine that is not look upon as a drift worthy block.
4. A small sector of a greater group.

Originally posted by superjoe29 Also, I will be at the NOPI show this weekend and would love to talk to any of you that are there....also, you may want to keep an eye out for Team Orange this weekend.Joe
I will have friends at NOPI this weekend. I wish I could have made it but I am working and prepping my car for our next drift event.

I wish you and your company luck. As you can see there are some tough crowds within the 240 family and those that like to follow the “rice” path are slowly being converted to track dogs.

Push for those guys. We spend more money in the long run.

If you don’t work for APC we can just forward this thread to them so they can get a look at what a great commotion they have started.

-Stanley V. aka StanBo
Old Sep 15, 2003 | 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by LVegaJr
plus a larger percent of honda owners are grabing nissan 240s.
Are all guys that own 240s but previously owned Honda Civics the "devil"?
Old Sep 15, 2003 | 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by StanBo
Are all guys that own 240s but previously owned Honda Civics the "devil"?
STANBO please read my post again, i stated that fact and WROTE right after it that this may be a reason APC is joining the drift bandwagon, i find it ignorant u feel im callin prior honda owners that have 240sx the devil, because i owned a honda accord before i got my 240sx three years ago. DO not assume because i stated a fact that im one of these kids in here that try to act cool by actin like they came out of the nissan womb. as a moderator on this forum i would assume u would at least read and under stand my post before tryin to be smart. not once did i degrade honda owners or their cars, all i have been stating is that APC needs to make sure they produce quality parts for a quality market, and not fill it with junk as it has with the honda camp. now i hope this wouldnt happen again, as i liked this topic and im new in this forum.....
Old Sep 15, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by LVegaJr
STANBO please read my post again, i stated that fact and WROTE right after it that this may be a reason APC is joining the drift bandwagon, i find it ignorant u feel im callin prior honda owners that have 240sx the devil, because i owned a honda accord before i got my 240sx three years ago. DO not assume because i stated a fact that im one of these kids in here that try to act cool by actin like they came out of the nissan womb. as a moderator on this forum i would assume u would at least read and under stand my post before tryin to be smart. not once did i degrade honda owners or their cars, all i have been stating is that APC needs to make sure they produce quality parts for a quality market, and not fill it with junk as it has with the honda camp. now i hope this wouldnt happen again, as i liked this topic and im new in this forum.....
Just asking a question. Sorry if I struck a nerve.

Oh yeah moderator is my title not proofreader

Ignorant when I asked the question but no longer now that you answered it.

Did I read your last post correctly? Maybe not. I have a bad habit of loosing my place when people post paragraphs at a time seeing that all of the letters start to look the same.

Oh yeah moderators are just people. Like you.
Old Sep 15, 2003 | 12:57 PM
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1) u asked a question that had no reason to be asked.

2)a moderator maintains the forum he is suppost to moderate, keeping it on topic, as a morderator u should read everything on here anyway. u dont need to proofread anything. just like anyone on here, try reading a post before replyin to it. It's not rocket science.

3) sadly ur ignorance is still here and i never did answer ur question, im not god, are u ?

4) if u cant focus ur eyes and read the posts u spend too much time lookin at the screen to begin with, take a break and rest like all humans.

5) i would hope so cus if u were a machine i would be scared.
Old Sep 15, 2003 | 01:24 PM
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I'm not buying into this quality APC parts promises right now. Why would they just all of sudden start making these top quality parts for drifting? They can't even make quality parts for looks. And last I checked drifting is extremely hard on a cars suspension. Now I don't know about anybody else, but it'll be a cold day in hell before I trust APC with something so critical as a cars suspension. After all isn't the suspension really what a "drift" product line is anyway? So what all this talk of engine mods?

Another thing I want to know is why not actually make good parts now? For cars you already have product lines for.... Why not start making high performance parts for the new string of cars commin out (Z, Evo, STi) instead of for the extremely popular, over a decade old, tuner cars from Japan which already have such quality parts you'll NEVER be able to match?
Old Sep 15, 2003 | 01:33 PM
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very true stupid (haha). i wouldnt mind to see if this is true, but dont expect me to try them out ill just enjoy my tanabe dd coilovers......
Old Sep 15, 2003 | 08:00 PM
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APC=A Piece of Crap
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by lionel
APC=A Piece of Crap
dude.. that car doesnt look bad.. as long as its not sporting 'APC' its all good
Old Sep 16, 2003 | 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by lionel
APC=A Piece of Crap
i dont know y u put this car in...Its a RS-R car not a APC. And its real nice and the driver of it is real good at drifting..i know kus i saw him first hand. Im a big fan of it

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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by lionel
APC=A Piece of Crap
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 10:02 AM
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he musta have post it wrong pic...



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