S14: OBX and DC Header what size O2 bungs?
05-07-2008, 05:00 PM
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There are definitely differences in front and rear O2's in the lineup. I think too many just agree with someone to seem like they modify their rides too.
When I bought my OBX Header I didn't read many horror stories, when I had an issue with fit all I got in reply was horror stories.
When I bought my OBX Header I didn't read many horror stories, when I had an issue with fit all I got in reply was horror stories.
05-12-2008, 08:28 AM
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There are definitely differences in front and rear O2's in the lineup. I think too many just agree with someone to seem like they modify their rides too.
When I bought my OBX Header I didn't read many horror stories, when I had an issue with fit all I got in reply was horror stories.
When I bought my OBX Header I didn't read many horror stories, when I had an issue with fit all I got in reply was horror stories.
Meeh thats why I don't cheap out on headers. DC sport header didn't have any of those problems for me.
05-12-2008, 08:34 AM
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DC Sports has reports of fitiment issues as well. It's also not made with as good materials either.
05-12-2008, 12:27 PM
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Don't know where you got that info from...
I've had my header on since 2005 and the ceramic powder coat is still sticking strong. EGR fitment was fine, and I have the exempt sticker for smog....
Also it's the only company to have a proven HP figure for there header.
No other header company to date offers a dyno for there product.
05-12-2008, 01:05 PM
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oh well. I think I'll just plug it off till inspection time and deal with it then. Maybe it will pass anyway.
05-12-2008, 02:35 PM
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Don't know where you got that info from...
I've had my header on since 2005 and the ceramic powder coat is still sticking strong. EGR fitment was fine, and I have the exempt sticker for smog....
Also it's the only company to have a proven HP figure for there header.
No other header company to date offers a dyno for there product.
I've had my header on since 2005 and the ceramic powder coat is still sticking strong. EGR fitment was fine, and I have the exempt sticker for smog....
Also it's the only company to have a proven HP figure for there header.
No other header company to date offers a dyno for there product.
Try not to be a fanboi, DC makes a great header, but there have been issues with their products too.
Regardless if you needed a header today, unless you can hunt down someone with a DC in stock, it's not happening.
05-13-2008, 06:06 PM
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Mild Steel > stainless. saying how old a header is means nothing...it's mileage and environment.
Try not to be a fanboi, DC makes a great header, but there have been issues with their products too.
Regardless if you needed a header today, unless you can hunt down someone with a DC in stock, it's not happening.
Try not to be a fanboi, DC makes a great header, but there have been issues with their products too.
Regardless if you needed a header today, unless you can hunt down someone with a DC in stock, it's not happening.
Meeh not a fanboi at all...
It is actually a mild steel because you wouldn't be able to get the mandrel bending out of any other steel with a higher carbon count.... If anything it's grade steel is no less than what pacesetter used to make there headers with. As DC sports also recommends "do not use NOS feed" with the header as it will cause cracking to the welds do to higher temperature range. The ceramic coating actually helps the header from cracking being how mild the steel is, but in any case I would rather have (mild steel>stainless steel) do to the fact that stainless steel does not bond well to welding. In any case stainless steel cracks just as often if not more due to major expansion at higher heat ranges....
History repeats itself and I have seen many complaints before with OBX, HOTSHOT, and Greddy when stainless steel headers were produced for the KA and the welds would crack. Infact that was the number one complaint with the greddy headers which eventually left that header to be discontinued, to date only OBX makes a stainless steel header that still cracks at the weld joints.
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05-13-2008, 06:50 PM
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i'm no expert but couldn't the cracked welds also be due to the excessive engine movement. i've had a obx header for about 3 years w/o any broken welds, not yet anyways. while there was a small problem getting the o2 sensor back on it wasn't anything i couldn't take care of. supposedly there were fitment issues with their headers that were said to have been rectified.
also the main reason i bought the obx was because it was cheap. at the time no one made a smog compliant header so i went with what was cheap. the way i see it is that while there is some r&d along with quality of work and materials, you mainly pay for the name brand.
also the main reason i bought the obx was because it was cheap. at the time no one made a smog compliant header so i went with what was cheap. the way i see it is that while there is some r&d along with quality of work and materials, you mainly pay for the name brand.
05-13-2008, 07:21 PM
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Meeh not a fanboi at all...
It is actually a mild steel because you wouldn't be able to get the mandrel bending out of any other steel with a higher carbon count.... If anything it's grade steel is no less than what pacesetter used to make there headers with. As DC sports also recommends "do not use NOS feed" with the header as it will cause cracking to the welds do to higher temperature range. The ceramic coating actually helps the header from cracking being how mild the steel is, but in any case I would rather have (mild steel>stainless steel) do to the fact that stainless steel does not bond well to welding. In any case stainless steel cracks just as often if not more due to major expansion at higher heat ranges....
History repeats itself and I have seen many complaints before with OBX, HOTSHOT, and Greddy when stainless steel headers were produced for the KA and the welds would crack. Infact that was the number one complaint with the greddy headers which eventually left that header to be discontinued, to date only OBX makes a stainless steel header that still cracks at the weld joints.
It is actually a mild steel because you wouldn't be able to get the mandrel bending out of any other steel with a higher carbon count.... If anything it's grade steel is no less than what pacesetter used to make there headers with. As DC sports also recommends "do not use NOS feed" with the header as it will cause cracking to the welds do to higher temperature range. The ceramic coating actually helps the header from cracking being how mild the steel is, but in any case I would rather have (mild steel>stainless steel) do to the fact that stainless steel does not bond well to welding. In any case stainless steel cracks just as often if not more due to major expansion at higher heat ranges....
History repeats itself and I have seen many complaints before with OBX, HOTSHOT, and Greddy when stainless steel headers were produced for the KA and the welds would crack. Infact that was the number one complaint with the greddy headers which eventually left that header to be discontinued, to date only OBX makes a stainless steel header that still cracks at the weld joints.
your stuff in the cam threads was painful.
05-13-2008, 07:24 PM
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It's not like the OBX header is $50 and the DC is $500, IMHO there is not that much difference in price.
05-14-2008, 11:08 PM
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umm i just used an o2 plug from a sr20 tubo outlet to plug the hole in my ebay headers after I took out my EGR(little black box) if that helps anyone out...
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