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Turbo ka with alcohol injection

Old Mar 18, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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Exclamation Turbo ka with alcohol injection

I want to turbo my ka24 but dont wanna upgrade my fuel system so here's what i thought i would do.
Setup a turbo to run around 4psi with out an intercooler, cause i here that anything under 8psi is moderatly safe to run w/o one.

Then setup an alcohol injection system to run off a toggle switch similar to a nitrous system that activates at full throttle to run a alcohol injector and an extra fuel injector that will mix in right after the throttle body, while at the same time boost the pressure of the turbo to around 8 or 10psi.

The alcohol would serve as an intercooler by cooling the intake charge and the extra fuel injector would help supplement the extra demand for fuel.

My questions are:

1: would it be safe to run my car with the stock fuel system at 4psi?
2: can an alky injector system be modded and tuned to run both an alcohol injector and a fuel injector?
3: would my stock fuel pump handel the extra demand of a 5th injector?
4: will any of this work?
Old Mar 18, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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alcohol will corrode your cylender walls.
Old Mar 18, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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no it wont
Old Mar 18, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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You dont absolutely need an intercooler, and the changing boost pressures is pointless. All that ghetto fabbing you want to do is gonna mess things up more than buying the right parts will. Also, whats the difference in turning up the boost when you wont be boosting that high under low throttle. I think you should read on KA-T.org.

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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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bro

you don't have to change the entire fuel system.

120 bucks sr 370cc injectors
100 bucks walbro 255
125 bucks safc and your done and you can run around 8-10 psi with conservative timing

bro im all about saving money but you are cutting the corners to close. FMIC kits are to cheap now not to run one bro....

once again, i built my turbo kit for 800 bucks and went from 15.8 to 13.7 at only 6psi
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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Hey biggamehit, ive heard that you dont even need to upgrade the fuel pump if youre running 7-8 psi. Isnt the KA pump the same as the SR?
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyAntics
no it wont
i beg to differ and as soon as i find the proof i'll link it.

i tried a water/alk. mixture about 2 years ago and it worked well. i did some research and ran into some discouraging info.

sure you can goggle it and get a dozen people telling you that it won't hurt your engine. but that same group of people are also trying to sell you a product. so of course they won't tell you that there products are can harm your engine.

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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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Hey biggamehit, ive heard that you dont even need to upgrade the fuel pump if youre running 7-8 psi. Isnt the KA pump the same as the SR?
na the 255 pump flows more fuel than the oem KA pump*. the FPR is the same however which is why you don't need an ADJ. FPR right away until you get around 15 psi and then you would want an rising rate FPR.

* ill get numbers
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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Yo Biggame show us some more snaps of ur sick-*** Turbo setup your currently rolling with so crazy antics get a good idea of cost-effective boostage.
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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lol man its nothing sick about it, its very basic all the things that must be right are right, ill post pics after i install the holset and clean all that damn oil out of my engine bay

this is the list

Initial ( 800 dollars)
xspower T3 ( with z31 backup)
ssac topmount manifold ( spot welded the suspect spots))
xs power bov
370cc injectors
safc1
greddy Full auto timer
Sr20 smic piping
rb20smic
earls oil line fittings
NGK copper plugs (gapped to .033)
N60 MAF
255 pump
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Current
Holset H1C turbo
Blitz bov
370cc injectors(sti 550cc's coming)
safc1
greddy Full auto timer
ssac fmic
earls oil line fittings
NGK copper plugs (gapped to .033)
N60 MAF
255 pump
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coming
NGK wideband coming
Rev Hard Log Manifold
Old Mar 25, 2007 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Biggamehit
i built my turbo kit for 800 bucks and went from 15.8 to 13.7 at only 6psi

Dude! you must be pretty good at dragin, I went 15.89 in my NA hatch it was a b**ch gettin the time down below the 16's
Old Mar 25, 2007 | 08:03 AM
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yea before i got into auto-x and drifting i spent about 3 years drag racing.

i had: CAI, 4-1 headers, test pipe, 2.5 exhaust, no ac or power steering.


ps

we got the same color 240 nice....
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