im not sure about second, i haven't tried that. but placing the car in a gear as opposed to the breaking in neutral or with the e-brake alone definitely helps.

here's winter for ya.

 

badass... so my xmas gift this year is good so far! i guess my parents care more about my safety than me "backing up" movies....




drove around after putting the new ones on (BTW: the one on the RIGHT is NEW....DUHHH). slid very little. i guess i can see why i was sliding a lot! NO traction on the old ones.

i only got 2 rears, but still, they'll help out a lot.