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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 01:50 AM
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looks like mine cept mine has ugly rims-5star american rims(don't know the model) and it's red. I'm gettin tired of the 10foot fender gap also. lol. I'm saving up on tein he though. A friend can get it for $1225. decent price eh? flex for $1300. not sure which is better for me.....any suggestions? plans on drifting. auto-x, mountain runs, daily driving.....
Old Oct 19, 2004 | 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by -HyJynX-
Lady, I suggest talking to raine about adjusting camber and blah blah blah..he seems to know quite a lot about that
again, the Batphone is ringing

As for camber, Lady you're probably going to need (at minimum) a set of camber bolts for the front, and a pair of rear adjustable upper arms in the back.

For the rear, if you go anywhere lower than 1" on either S13/S14, the factory rear camber adjustment isn't enough (there's an offset bolt on the inboard side of the rear upper arm; if you go get an alignment and they tell you there's no way to adjust rear camber, either they think our Nissans are the same as your typical Honda Civic, or they don't know their cars). The easiest way to get rear camber adjustment is by getting a set of adjustable rear upper control arms (RUCAs) like these:



These are the most inexpensive versions found on Ebay, buy they're pretty strong and hold up well. Unless you're supre track all star, you won't need anything more than this; the Kazama or Cusco RUCAs are competition-spec, and the price for those high-end parts reflects that.

Note I said "easiest way" because even if the price is slightly higher, it's worth it ue to the amount of adjustability you get compared to the PDM offset bushings. You get more than 2 degrees of adjustment for about $20 more, and you don't have to bother with getting the OEM bushings removed and the new ones pressed in. Also, the aftermarket RUCAs have the hard pillowball joint, compared to the soft, somewhat flex-prone OEM bushing. If you do go with the PDM bushings, they should have enough adjustment to get your rear alignment to factory spec (provided you stay with a 1-1.5" lowering spring). Anything lower and I'd recommend going with the RUCAs.

As for the front, there is no factory camber adjustment whatsoever. If you're just going with 1-1.5: springs and AGX, then camber bolts might be your best bet:



From experience these should be good enough to get the front wheels straight. These run about $20-30 for a set. Personally I'd go all the way with a full front camber plate set, but these run around $130 (for a Tein brand plate) and it miht be overkill if you're not planning on doing anything beyond spirited street driving (picture below for reference):



What kind of springs did you get anyways, Lady?

P.S. naptime - if anything "daily" is part of your driving, you don't want HE's... I speak from personal experience there too... plus $1225 is the average price for Flex these days, HE's go for around $1100 bro
Old Oct 19, 2004 | 12:22 PM
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Told you Raine knew his stuff
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 09:33 AM
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Leaving the front camber off is better for drifting though in my understanding. The rear camber is a ***** to correct, but it pays off by giving you better grip. I love these cars, they're so different from the hondas I used to drive :d .
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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Thanks for the great info 12aine

as for the springs, I got a really good deal on some sportlines so that'll be about a 1.5" drop (i know i should've saved for coilovers but my financial situation just couldn't allow it)

Yeah, I'm thinking i'll go for RUCAs, they do seem easier and maybe better for the long-run? As for the front, I've also heard what Shane said about "Leaving the front camber off is better for drifting..."

And yes, "daily" is a major part of how I will be driving my car

oh yeah, one more thing, as for the RUCAs found on Ebay, Raine have you had any first hand experience with those? In terms of quality?

Thanks all

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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 12:17 AM
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Originally posted by LaDyInRed
Thanks for the great info 12aine

as for the springs, I got a really good deal on some sportlines so that'll be about a 1.5" drop (i know i should've saved for coilovers but my financial situation just couldn't allow it)

Yeah, I'm thinking i'll go for RUCAs, they do seem easier and maybe better for the long-run? As for the front, I've also heard what Shane said about "Leaving the front camber off is better for drifting..."

And yes, "daily" is a major part of how I will be driving my car

oh yeah, one more thing, as for the RUCAs found on Ebay, Raine have you had any first hand experience with those? In terms of quality?

Thanks all
Sportlines are good; full coilovers aren't necessary unless you really need all the adjustments they allow.

Anyhow, RUCAS are better for the long run, since they don't need to be removed to adjust, and they offer a larger range of adjustability. You can adjust the RUCAS without jacking up the car too, if you have to.*

Yes Lady, I actually have a set of these on my car (bought from Ebay) and they're holding up well for what I put them through. Last I checked (2 nights ago) they're still good, there was a section where I accidentally chipped the paint off deep (to the metal) with a huge wrench, and there's a small spot of rust. I sanded the rust off and touched up the bare metal with a paint marker. Other than that, you can't beat $110 or so for RUCAS. If you get them, I suggest you spray a few coats of outdoor paint before installing, for rust preventive purposes. WHen it's nice and Sunny again I plan on repainting my RUCAS from ugly gray to something thicker and less prone to scratching. I do plan on upgrading to $300+ Cusco's or Kazama's, but only when I reach the level needed for me to require such parts (heh)

As far as the "leaving the front camber off - it's better for drifting" comment, technically yes. Having some negative camber helps add grip when turning, but then again drifting isn't 24/7. Daily driving is 24/7, so personally if a pair of $15 bolts will make my tires up front get another 1000-2000 miles before replacing, I'd do it. If I ever need "drift setup" camber, I can always adjust for the weekend.

Hope this helps lady
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